TPWD: Wednesday, 9:00 am, March 30, 2011 Commission Meeting Agenda – COMMITTEENAME
Did anyoe knotoce that committee Agenda Item #2 was withdrawn?
Did anyoe knotoce that committee Agenda Item #2 was withdrawn?
TPWD: Wednesday, 9:00 am, March 30, 2011 Commission Meeting Agenda – COMMITTEENAME
Did anyoe knotoce that committee Agenda Item #2 was withdrawn?
I am going to call in the morning. That Item had lots of important issues. Suppressors were only a small part of that agenda. See what this comment section says tomorrow. TPWD: News Releases: All News Releases (Search: "public comment")
+1 That guy has absolutely no idea what he's talking about.Should we care whether hunters can use silencers on their guns? Totally clueless and misinforming the public.
+1 That guy has absolutely no idea what he's talking about.
It's like he is making the whole thing up based on his own deductive reasoning without researching anything. Very poor journalism.
Driller- how many game wardens did you talk to that supported or had no problem with suppressors?
We should expect nothing less out of the statesman... and comments are disabled of course.
"I already use a silenced firearm for whitetails. It's called a bow." Brilliant.
Not Driller but I know a whole bunch that do have problem with it.
Did they explain why they have a problem with it?
Here’s the deal. I’m not sure what you’re so torqued about. I’m saying use them. I know gun dealers who are opposed to this regulation, mainly asking why we’re doing this. And that’s my only real question, why. TPWD, game wardens especially, normally would be screaming like crazy about expanding this rule to include silencers. They fought crossbows for decades. And now, and I’ve talked with several as well, they’re saying nothing publicly about this proposed rule. That’s the issue. Nobody is really saying anything about it. They didn’t at the meeting. That makes me nervous about where it comes from.
I understand your position is to allow them, it's the outright misstatements of fact throughout your commentary that I'm torqued about. From the completely wrong statement that suppressors compromise bullet speed and power (the truth: they slightly increase it) to the suggestion that hunters would have to use subsonic ammo (regular ammo works just fine if you're just trying to save your hearing) to the statement that special "military-style" rifles are needed to use them (I have no idea where this comes from. It's just plain wrong), your commentary is fraught with blatant falsehoods. Falsehoods that would lead the reader to imagine psycho militia types out stalking the woods with a suppressed AR-15 firing weak subsonic rounds, silently wounding entire herds of deer in pursuit of living out their Call of Duty fantasies. The reality of a typical deer hunter firing his same old 30-06 bolt action without the absurd muzzle blast is completely ignored.
Yes, game wardens irrationally fought crossbows, and lost. And then found out that it didn't change a thing. I really doubt they want to fight this, when there are again plenty of examples of suppressors being used for hunting without the imagined problems. Like I said, in some countries (Finland, etc) they are legally required for hunters, and in some US States they are already legal.
Asking "why" is a strange reason to oppose something, especially for a gun dealer who can only benefit from the increase in suppressor sales to hunters that would result. It's about hearing safety. That's it. If we're going to ask why, then ask why do firearms need to be excessively loud? Why does the law mandate hearing loss and noise pollution? Why, in a time when lawsuits are being used to close public grounds to hunters due to noise complaints, is the law opposed to reducing the noise?
The NRA has been pushing this issue in several States (Montana is considering this regulatory change as well), partly to combat these costly lawsuits. If I were trying to find out "where it comes from" that's where I would look first. I don't really care where it comes from, I'm just eager to no longer have to worry about getting earplugs in quick enough to make my shot before the deer run off.