So how bad is it going to get?

[busykngt]

What do you "offer them" in round two of negotiations? [Because... there will be a round two... and three... and four...].

They've got a long track record of never being satisfied. They will never stop. No matter how small the slice of cake that's left, they'll be back again and again.

 

[EZ-E]

Cheaper, easier, faster to just give illegals right to vote.

The new voters are on their way.

DHS warns of new migrant caravan

A mob of migrants chanting “Biden, Biden” tried to rush across a border bridge into Texas late last month, according to local news accounts that said they’d been told a false rumor that they’d be allowed to enter.

m.washingtontimes.com

 

[superchief]

I think it will be bad

 

[Vaquero]

Only as bad as you allow.

 

[SA_Steve]

Democrats Launch Their Assault on Red State America |

www.paulcraigroberts.org

 

[AKM47]

I would watch Virginia, the governor stopped short of sending a modern equivalent of Black Dave into the Shenandoah Valley against all the sheriff's and shelved the idea. He might bring this back up with JOHO&Co now in charge and decide to send some sort of ersatz UNSSU out into the country to enforce his laws, if so I would say things are going to get bad.

Remember the first civil war started in Virginia, the second may start there also

 

[V-Tach]

Trying to be optimistic.......but we have never seen this level of shortages before.....the shortages we've experienced before is no where near the current levels...........if it does get even worse before it gets better.......a large amount of small firearm businesses are going to go under......

If you don't think the Libs aren't aware of the situation in the gun industry and won't try to leverage it....well............

 

[satx78247]

To hope is to wish for something better and earnestly believe it can happen. False hope would then be to not sincerely wish for something better to happen. That's not what I'm about.... I have a hope that good and just can prevail. It's not a false hope, that's for sure.

I know the reality of the situation, but I won't give in to it as a foregone conclusion. I won't concede the dems or fascists or communists are absolutely going to succeed in enslaving us to their horrors. It MAY happen, but I don't believe it's written in stone.

There is my "hope"; not false. Tempered with reality; it has to be. But I won't surrender my wish; for things to be better and for our liberties to endure. Sometimes our hope is all we have; dark times, but to endure.

My hope also is that the Democrats remain true to themselves; self-serving, greedy, and corrupt. Beating them is not the goal; allowing them to beat themselves is.

LabRat

LabRat,

Our main HOPE is that the RADICAL LEFT continues to "over play their hand". = That & their INSUFFERABLE ARROGANCE is their USUAL downfall.

yours, satx

 

[satx78247]

Remember the first civil war started in Virginia, the second may start there also

AKM47,

I think CA is more likely as a start point for the "hot" CW . = Sooner or later, the "decent" CA folks (and there are MANY out there. - I once lived in LA, straight up the cliff from Zuma beach.) will rebel against the TYRANTS on the FAR LEFT.

yours, satx

 

[Texasjack]

The real danger is the "Death by a 1000 Cuts": Putting a tax or other restrictions on ammo will put dealers out of business. They've already screwed them over by letting financing companies deny credit to firearms dealers. They can squeeze the market dry within 5 or 10 years without having to pass an actual "ban" and they can avoid the political backlash.

 

[satx78247]

They are going to try to abolish the electoral college this will be a total game changer if they can pull it off. We are not working with reasonable people only people that will do anything to win. I realize that it will take a 2/3rds vote to change, but they have the machines that can be programmed and the poll workers that will insure their victory.

Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to abolish the electoral college and to provide for the direct election of the President and Vice President of the United States. (2021 - H.J.Res. 14)

A resolution in the U.S. Congress.

www.govtrack.us

Antares,

IF we "out in the 50 States" are TOO DUMB to STOP the vote fraud, we fully deserve to lose.
(I'm a 40 year veteran of being an Election Judge & I know how to STOP fraud, as I've learned the DIMocRATS dirty tricks.)

The FIRST thing that MUST BE DONE is to AUDIT 100% of the voter rolls & CLEAN OUT the "non-persons", the dead, the felons, the NON-citizens, the people who have MOVED OUT of the jurisdiction (AND may be voting in TWO or MORE places), etc.

yours, satx

 

[Sam7sf]

What do you "offer them" in round two of negotiations? [Because... there will be a round two... and three... and four...].

Being dragged out.

 

[Sam7sf]

I too am wishful not all democrats will be on board. I however wouldn’t be surprised if for several reasons they won’t fight the hand that feeds them.

I’m a realist. I will gladly be wrong.

 

[seeker_two]

Interesting article....moderate Democrats might thwart JOHO's plans more than the Vichy Republicans.....

Zerohedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

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[Hoji]

They barely hold a majority and centrists are up for reelection in 2 years.

We shall see if they are suicidal.

You still think voting matters. That’s cute.

 

[Frank59]

As long as TP is available everything will be just fine.

LMAO

 

[SQLGeek]

No, it actually stemmed from a conversation with Ben at one point. Fighting for not one more inch does nothing to create a net gain. UBCs aren’t going to realistically stop private transfers that need to be stopped...transfers to prohibited persons, for example. Serializing an 80% receiver won’t stop 3D printed polymer lowers...the magic smoke is out of the box, it ain’t going back in.

But if you want a net gain, you’ve got to be willing to accept something to get what you want in return, otherwise we have statis quo Mexican standoffs forever that eventual result in more inches given, specifically because precedent, going back to the before the birth of this nation, states .gov reserves the power to regulate RKBA, just like peaceable assembly and freedom of speech.

There are a couple of problems here. The GOP doesn't have the will to do this. They'd rather just pretend to play defenders of the 2A when they're a minority party. Other than a few vocal examples in Congress, most of the Republicans don't seem to really care enough about guns to make them a policy issue they want to advance. They want to do the needful to get their NRA ratings and that's about it.

The Democrats are out for blood, especially after 4 years of Trump. They feel the fury of righteous indignation and the need to right these many perceived wrongs.

The only thing I have against a background check is the fee. I'm actually used to them being a CA transplant.

The private party background checks in CA were simply horrid. $100 fee where you had to pay DROS and sales tax on a used fire arm plus a 10 day wait. No fekking thank you to that ever again. You know this of course. I see nothing redeeming about them at all.

If the Democrats have their way, we'll get to go through a background check for the primers you bought for me earlier this year.

 

[mad88minute]

There are a couple of problems here. The GOP doesn't have the will to do this. They'd rather just pretend to play defenders of the 2A when they're a minority party. Other than a few vocal examples in Congress, most of the Republicans don't seem to really care enough about guns to make them a policy issue they want to advance. They want to do the needful to get their NRA ratings and that's about it.

The Democrats are out for blood, especially after 4 years of Trump. They feel the fury of righteous indignation and the need to right these many perceived wrongs.



The private party background checks in CA were simply horrid. $100 fee where you had to pay DROS and sales tax on a used fire arm plus a 10 day wait. No fekking thank you to that ever again. You know this of course. I see nothing redeeming about them at all.

If the Democrats have their way, we'll get to go through a background check for the primers you bought for me earlier this year.

Transferring primers in a parking lot..... Felony.

Im sure many people think we sound like chicken little, running around screaming the sky is falling. But this time it's different. The left has gone full retard.

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[oldag]

No, it actually stemmed from a conversation with Ben at one point. Fighting for not one more inch does nothing to create a net gain. UBCs aren’t going to realistically stop private transfers that need to be stopped...transfers to prohibited persons, for example. Serializing an 80% receiver won’t stop 3D printed polymer lowers...the magic smoke is out of the box, it ain’t going back in.

But if you want a net gain, you’ve got to be willing to accept something to get what you want in return, otherwise we have statis quo Mexican standoffs forever that eventual result in more inches given, specifically because precedent, going back to the before the birth of this nation, states .gov reserves the power to regulate RKBA, just like peaceable assembly and freedom of speech.

Sorry, but I have to disagree. Conservatives have been compromising since the 60's, and that is why we are in such a mess today.

 

[oldag]

Only as bad as you allow.

Or should that be "we" instead of "you"?

Unless we confront them in large enough numbers, we will not be successful.