Self actualization and self sacrifice cannot both dwell in the sovereign self.

[Mike1234567]

Regarding most arguments in this thread... meh... leave me alone and stop meddling in others' (my) affairs. I'm a good honest man. Most would call me Libertarian or Independent... straight... and RTL. I've been ripped off by more 'Christians' than anyone else. I'm a Christian but I don't HIDE behind that mask to take advantage of others.

 

[breakingcontact]

There is always order, even in what seems random and chaotic.

Most of which is far too complicated for us too understand.

Agreed

 

[TheDan]

had strong socialist tendencies

That makes me feel better about not really paying attention to him
Probably also why he is pushed in government schools so much.

Order is natural. If not imposed by God then by nature.

Order and structure are needed by humans. Acknowledging that order and structure more particularly. I dont find chaos liberating. Ive done chaos. All it did was hurt everyone involved.

haha, more of the that "structure"... order vs. chaos... Pick a side!

Nature actually moves towards entropy (chaos).

Order is like gravity.

Ok, so if you're saying order is like the fundamental workings of our universe, then chaos (your definition of it) can't actually exist.

 

[breakingcontact]

Plenty of order in nature. Plenty of chaos in man. Are you human or are you dancer?

 

[Younggun]

Plenty of order in nature. Plenty of chaos in man. Are you human or are you dancer?

Hmmm. Interesting distinction you see.

 

[peeps]

I think that apology ban thread that's going on now fits the chaos definition pretty well eh?

 

[Younggun]

Nah, there is order there. It's actually following the natural order of such threads pretty well.

 

[peeps]

Nah, there is order there. It's actually following the natural order of such threads pretty well.

Exactly