Replacing bedside weapon

[Texan79423]

Men, I want to update and replace my full size Sig Tac-op 1911 with a double stack 2011 with optic. I like a heavy gun due to recoil and a want to try a red dot as my eyes are not that good anymore. Just want an accurate straight-shooting gun I can shoot 5 to 20 yards with. What would the group recommend. May consider a striker fired but never shot/owned a poly or striker fire weapon.

 

[EZ-E]

If you want the extra weight in a striker fire there's only 1 real option.... the Sig 320 Legions have tungsten infused lower grips that add the extra weight you seek. They have a rail & cut out for red dot. The slide on them are like butter, smooth & easy to rack back.

 

[seeker_two]

Why not a CZ? The Shadows will fit the bill for DA/SA shooting....

 

[Wudidiz]

Men, I want to update and replace my full size Sig Tac-op 1911 with a double stack 2011 with optic. I like a heavy gun due to recoil and a want to try a red dot as my eyes are not that good anymore. Just want an accurate straight-shooting gun I can shoot 5 to 20 yards with. What would the group recommend. May consider a striker fired but never shot/owned a poly or striker fire weapon.

Do you want DA/SA OR SAO?

 

[Texan79423]

I think I am looking for a 2011 or ?

 

[paknheat]

Another vote for the CZ line.

Why are you wanting to change up? Just greater mag capacity?


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[Sasquatch]

If you want the extra weight in a striker fire there's only 1 real option.... the Sig 320 Legions have tungsten infused lower grips that add the extra weight you seek. They have a rail & cut out for red dot. The slide on them are like butter, smooth & easy to rack back.

Even better:

The Sig 320 offers METAL grip modules - Sig has them, and IIRC there are aftermarket versions as well

Walther also has their Q5 - which is a metal framed version of the PPQ which has one of the best factory striker triggers on the market. A 1911 guy would no doubt appreciate the trigger on the Q5, or the PPQ, or the newest iteration, the PDP. The Q5 and the PDP both come optic ready.

You can also get metal frames for Glocks from Lonewolf. Supposedly just going to a metal frame helps the stock Glock trigger pull a lot. Never tried it myself.

 

[Texan79423]

I am considering a CZ I have a CZ Rami already.

 

[innominate]

If you want the extra weight in a striker fire there's only 1 real option.... the Sig 320 Legions have tungsten infused lower grips that add the extra weight you seek. They have a rail & cut out for red dot. The slide on them are like butter, smooth & easy to rack back.

The AXG p320's have metal grip modules. To me they make it a better balanced pistol. I have the classic model. They are $$$ though.

 

[RankAmateur]

Men, I want to update and replace my full size Sig Tac-op 1911 with a double stack 2011 with optic. I like a heavy gun due to recoil and a want to try a red dot as my eyes are not that good anymore. Just want an accurate straight-shooting gun I can shoot 5 to 20 yards with. What would the group recommend. May consider a striker fired but never shot/owned a poly or striker fire weapon.

I think we're presuming you intend to switch to 9mm? Your TacOps is in .45, right? Sig P320 was suggested. You don't need to buy a Legion out of the box. Sig sells the fire control groups separately and you can build your pistol with the tungsten-infused ploymer grip module or an AXG grip module, whatever length slide/barrel you want, and even get the red dots factory installed. My P320 full-size with the heavy grip module, and sig Romeo 1 Pro has been absolutely reliable and is very mild with recoil due to weight.

You mentioned a possible preference for a 2011. If you want to stay with the 1911 trigger/controls you're used to, but want double stack 9mm capacity, 2011 is great. Staccato P DPO would fit your bill, but that bill would be a LOT higher (grin). I think it would also be a shame to just keep that pistol for your bedside weapon.

As mentioned, CZ would be another heavy option. All of these would be dead on accurate (at even well beyond the 20 yds you mention), reliable, and have the higher capacity of double stack magazines. Only the 2011 (among these) would sport the 1911 like trigger you're used to. The trigger on the CPS (if DA/SA) is much heavier on first pull and is cantilevered (unlike 1911s) so it feels different. The P320 trigger is also cantilevered, but the wall is at the vertical point. You can tune those triggers to be very crisp (though still feels different than 1911 triggers).

Recommend laying your hands on some of these options, and ideally, shooting them for a couple of dozen rounds each to see what you can live with before making a decision. My preferences for a bedside or range gun would be P320, then Staccato, then CZ. If money was no object, I'd lean Staccato, but would still be hard pressed to really "like" any of these better than a customized P320. By the way, I'm old enough that iron sights have become difficult for me to focus on, and have moved almost exclusively to red dots. Took some getting used to, but love them now.

Best of luck to you in your hunt!

 

[zackmars]

If you are ok with DA/SA, get a Beretta. The 92X, M9A3, or M9A4, or even the PX4 are fantastic guns that are extremely easy to shoot well.

Beretta's are much easier to work on and improve than CZ's

 

[glenbo]

I second the Beretta.

 

[toddnjoyce]

Wilson Combat EDC X9, X9L or SFX9 with optics ready slide. You’ll thank me later.

 

[Byrd666]

https://www.usa.bularmory.com/sas-ii

Look at the EDC & DUTY tab

I have one of the Commander length SAS II https://www.usa.bularmory.com/product-page/sas-ii-tac-4-25 & a Commander sized 9mm 1911 https://www.usa.bularmory.com/product-page/1911-edc-4-25 and will vouch for either. Only the SAS II (2011) is optics ready though.

 

[Tnhawk]

I second the Beretta.

While I would not want to carry an M9, the Beretta would be a good bedside weapon.

 

[Byrd666]

May consider a striker fired but never shot/owned a poly or striker fire weapon.

I was seriously considering an FN 509 MRD Midsize for a while, and kinda' still am. But I ended up with an M&P 2.0 Compact 9mm for now. I've always had pretty good experiences with the Smith lineup, and it fits my niche for a semi lightweight, full capacity (15+1 rnds), and optics ready sidearm at a decently affordable price point.

 

[no2gates]

As others have recommended the P320 Legion and CZ 75 with metal frames. I've got both a P320 XFive Legion and a CZ 75 SP-01 and it's a close call to say which one I prefer. They are both excellent shooters, but the CZ I'd have to give the win to since it's cheaper.

 

[Texan79423]

Tank armature Thanks for advice. I am going with the Staccato P.

 

[oldag]

Men, I want to update and replace my full size Sig Tac-op 1911 with a double stack 2011 with optic. I like a heavy gun due to recoil and a want to try a red dot as my eyes are not that good anymore. Just want an accurate straight-shooting gun I can shoot 5 to 20 yards with. What would the group recommend. May consider a striker fired but never shot/owned a poly or striker fire weapon.

I don't know how you could do any better than the TacOp 1911.

 

[RankAmateur]

Tank armature Thanks for advice. I am going with the Staccato P.

You won't be able to do anything but love it! I HIGHLY recommend that you also use it regularly as a range gun. It's just too good, too much fun, to leave locked up by the bedside!!