First time I shot my 629 (44 magnum) I only loaded 1 round in the cylinder. I have seen pictures of people who shot themselves. I did not find the recoil to be that bad but it is the 8+" barrel and pretty heavy. The laws of physics apply.
Recoil?
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My "oh spit" moment of reality came when I fired my Smith & Wesson model 337 with 158 grain +P in .38 special for the first time.
The model 337 was an AirLite J frame revolver with a scandium frame and titanium cylinder that weighed 11oz. It was THE lightest revolver made then. What a joy to carry. I could drop it down into a bathrobe pocket and forget it was there.
Right there stamped in the barrel was a warning not to fire a lighter bullet than a 115 or 125 grain, I forget which.
Imagine choking up on an aluminum baseball bat, then swinging it as hard as you can into a telephone pole. That's exactly how my hands felt after one round. I jerked back against a 9lb. trigger pull while still in a painful haze because I couldn't believe how bad it was, and round two was touched off. That's it, I opened the cylinder and NEVER fired it again.
Now, if you can tell me with a straight face that you enjoy this kind of punishment .....
I'd like to just say that two rounds and it was over, but I can't. It took me many rounds over a couple of range sessions to beat the flinch that little revolver put on me.
The model 337 was an AirLite J frame revolver with a scandium frame and titanium cylinder that weighed 11oz. It was THE lightest revolver made then. What a joy to carry. I could drop it down into a bathrobe pocket and forget it was there.
Right there stamped in the barrel was a warning not to fire a lighter bullet than a 115 or 125 grain, I forget which.
Imagine choking up on an aluminum baseball bat, then swinging it as hard as you can into a telephone pole. That's exactly how my hands felt after one round. I jerked back against a 9lb. trigger pull while still in a painful haze because I couldn't believe how bad it was, and round two was touched off. That's it, I opened the cylinder and NEVER fired it again.
Now, if you can tell me with a straight face that you enjoy this kind of punishment .....
I'd like to just say that two rounds and it was over, but I can't. It took me many rounds over a couple of range sessions to beat the flinch that little revolver put on me.
seeker_two
My posts don't count....
My 856 is steel. Never believed that .38Spl should be fired in anything lighter than a steel-frame. Save the ultralight frames for .22Mag snubs....
When I was a kid my dad would tell me "this is gonna hurt me more than it will you" right before he laid the wood to my backside.
With that 337, I'd have to tell the same thing to the bad guy before I busted a cap on him.
I was surprised when I first shot my Shield 45 acp, short barrel and all. No real recoil for me. Now my first gun was a 12 gauge single shot Rossi, that will bruise my shoulder every time. Don't have it anymore. Sawed the barrel down and sold it around the corner. NOT. But did get rid of it.
Axxe55
Retiretgtshit stirrer
EVERYBODY REACTS TO RECOIL DIFFWERENTLY!
Note to self, wake up before reading posts. It took caffeine to figure out what you meant.
As to recoil, in my youth I was a handgun recoil whore. The harder it recoiled the more I loved it. Accuracy was not affected. Much later on in life that isn't the case. I can still shoot my 6.5" PowerPort 629 but it carries reduced power reloads.
I wised up and figured you don't need all that power to get the job done with the right bullet application.
Rifles are 308 and below. If it is to much, muzzle breaks are a wonder in technology. I did shoot a Remington rolling block in 50-70 Government a few weeks ago. That was a way cool shooting experience.
My only heavy hitter is a 7mm WSM and it could definitely put a hurt on you after a few rounds. It wouldn't be that bad but it's a lightweight model 70 mountain rifle. My 280 Remington is a lot more tolerable. My 20" Rossi in 45 Colt would probably be more pleasant if it didn't have a steel butt cap on it. With that stock you better find the sweet spot on your shoulder or it will let you know you screwed up.
My regular range guns are 308s, x39s and 223s. Can shoot them plenty and walk away unphased. Also pistols like 44mag and 50ae are just past my limit for having fun. I'll never own either. The colt 45s and autos I have are heavy enough to be no bother. My GF has a smith air weight and shooting it is like holding a firecracker.
My regular range guns are 308s, x39s and 223s. Can shoot them plenty and walk away unphased. Also pistols like 44mag and 50ae are just past my limit for having fun. I'll never own either. The colt 45s and autos I have are heavy enough to be no bother. My GF has a smith air weight and shooting it is like holding a firecracker.
Whats the least pleasant gun you've shot?
What gun have you shot, upon firing made you immediately put it back down? For me its those .45/.410 bond arms derrengers. As if the jam-your-hand-in-a-blender recoil impusle wasn't bad enough, you only get 2 rounds in a heavy, and rather bulky gun. No thanks.
TrailerparkTrash
Member
I was out in the desert yesterday shooting my Glock 27, 23 and 22. The 22 and 23 are of the Gen5 versions, while the 27 is gen3. The recoil felt from a .40, especially out of a gen5 is nothing. The term “snappy” has been so over used and repeated ad nauseam.
Try shooting a .40 out of a Gen5 Glock 22 and you’ll never go back to a +P 9mm or .45 AARP ever again.
Hard pass. I've owned multiple copies of the Glock 22, I have no desire to own another. I also have no desire to own any Gen 5 glocks, as the Gen 4 is "perfection" as far as Glocks go. I'm not left handed so I don't need right side controls, and I actually prefer the Glock finger grooves to the straight grip. The "Glock performance trigger" is meh. There is no magic Glock can do that will make the .40 less snappy than a 9mm or a .45ACP - the recoil impulse of the .40 in every platform I've tried it in is more snappy and more twisting than either of the other calibers - the only one that is less pleasant to shoot is the .357 Sig which just feels like a little worse .40SW recoil impulse. Top it off - the Gen 5 .40's don't fit holsters for the Gen 4 or earlier, because in Glock's efforts to re-engineer the gen 5 for the .40, they had to give it the ol' .45 GAP treatment of a fatter, wider, heavier slide that requires purchasing all new holsters, so it wouldn't even fit any of my current holsters.
The ONLY thing I'd have use for the .357 Sig version for is to throw a compensator on it and play with it, but I have 3 9mm Glocks and I could do the same to one of them for less cash outlay and still wind up with a flatter shooting gun with greater capacity and cheaper ammo costs still.
I would just as soon get the 10mm Glock if I were to buy a gun with harsher recoil impulse, because the 10mm can be driven to much more potent loads than the .40SW. My interest in a 10mm Glock at this point would be for woods carry as a defensive gun against mountain lions or wild dogs, and since I don't live in or near the mountains anymore, the need for such a gun is nil. The Glock 40 would be my pick in that genre if I ever did bother to get a "big bore" Glock again. I've owned a G20SF before and it was ok but I still prefer the G21SF over the 20.
The only Gen 5 glock that really interests me is their new G49, because I like the longer slide on a compact frame - but again, I can accomplish that with an aftermarket slide for my G19 already for less cash.
I am not a fan of PAIN, yet I have met shooters that are.
They are a "special case" that I do not understand nor will try to explain!
Now for handguns, the recoil issue I have is controllability for follow up shots.
I find the 38 Spl+p in ultra lights just isn't controllable. I'm OK going up in caliber until I tried shooting a 50 Desert Eagle.
In between the extremes, I find that I can best shoot a heavier handgun that has a longer sight radius.
My favorite that I shoot the best is a long slide 45 acp.
Both of these qualities of weight and size can hamper carry, concealed carry and fighting ability in real close quarters like for example having to defend while siting in a vehicle.
So there is the handgun quandary. You will need to solve this one for yourself.
For rifles,
My number 1 rule on managing hunting rifle recoil is to just use an appropriate caliber.
For example my favorite deer rifles are bolt action 270W.
I also find recoil of a few rifles just don't seam follow the momentum science?!
I have run into a 30-06 and a 300W that hurt more that some African calibers?!
So number 2 rule is to replace steel butt plates.
And if more recoil management is needed wear an EVO shield tee-shirt.
They are a "special case" that I do not understand nor will try to explain!
Now for handguns, the recoil issue I have is controllability for follow up shots.
I find the 38 Spl+p in ultra lights just isn't controllable. I'm OK going up in caliber until I tried shooting a 50 Desert Eagle.
In between the extremes, I find that I can best shoot a heavier handgun that has a longer sight radius.
My favorite that I shoot the best is a long slide 45 acp.
Both of these qualities of weight and size can hamper carry, concealed carry and fighting ability in real close quarters like for example having to defend while siting in a vehicle.
So there is the handgun quandary. You will need to solve this one for yourself.
For rifles,
My number 1 rule on managing hunting rifle recoil is to just use an appropriate caliber.
For example my favorite deer rifles are bolt action 270W.
I also find recoil of a few rifles just don't seam follow the momentum science?!
I have run into a 30-06 and a 300W that hurt more that some African calibers?!
So number 2 rule is to replace steel butt plates.
And if more recoil management is needed wear an EVO shield tee-shirt.
