Private Sale: Odessa Shooter

[smittyb]

It's time for our quarterly BOS thread anyway.

Seems more like monthly, lately

 

[Bithabus]

"According to DPS records, Seth Ator, 36, previously pled guilty to two Class B misdemeanors, which blocked him from buying a gun."

"The background check was run through the national system, the NICS system. The NICS system did work when he tried to buy a gun, he was denied a gun," said John Wester, an agent with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms.

https://ktvl.com/news/nation-world/texas-shooting-rampage-raises-questions-about-private-gun-sales

 

[Bithabus]

However the misdemeanor charges are not NICS disqualifiers. Something is fishy

Criminal Trespass and evading arrest, supposedly

 

[TxStetson]

According to DPS records, Seth Ator, 36, previously pled guilty to two Class B misdemeanors, which blocked him from buying a gun.

"The background check was run through the national system, the NICS system. The NICS system did work when he tried to buy a gun, he was denied a gun," said John Wester, an agent with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms.

https://ktvl.com/news/nation-world/texas-shooting-rampage-raises-questions-about-private-gun-sales

In the link you posted, I found this:
BREAKING: The Odessa gunman reportedly would not have passed a background check, so he obtained his weapon through a private sale where a background check wasn't required.

So they’re assuming he bought it through a private sale? They don’t have proof?

 

[nlghthawk]

Felons can't buy a gun or be in possession of a gun. Why is it the sellers responsibility to know the legal status of a prohibited person? You either have rights or you have permissions. Obviously these laws don't work and universal background checks are a back door to registration and confiscation. Get involved politically and stop looking to blame someone for doing something that is perfectly legal and within a persons right to do.

 

[roadkill]

It's time for our quarterly BOS thread anyway.

Your gonna have to look at your BOS to be sure the timing is quarterly and we’re not jumping the gun here.

 

[Bithabus]

In the link you posted, I found this:
BREAKING: The Odessa gunman reportedly would not have passed a background check, so he obtained his weapon through a private sale where a background check wasn't required.

So they’re assuming he bought it through a private sale? They don’t have proof?

I wouldnt trust anything they say. Class B misd convictions do not cause a person to fail a NICS check. They are lying.

 

[roadkill]

Had a history of mental illness. So how was it linked with NICS?

https://www.nationalreview.com/news...ough Friday 2019-09-03&utm_term=NRDaily-Smart

 

[Bithabus]

Supposedly he was adjudicated mentally defective or involuntarily committed at some point or another. Though no news outlet can find the records.

 

[DyeF9]

I sold a NIB S&W Shield to one of my best friends awhile back. I still typed up a bill of sale that he signed and I tossed it in the safe. It makes everything official, everyone feels better and it's just good policy.

A notary was there to witness and sign for the sale as well?

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[Shady]

I am still waiting for that one case when a BOS helped someone. We have seen several cases where the BOS has hurt the seller.

But if you want to know the facts search it out its been beat to death.

 

[Davetex]

I always have the local sheriff sign off on my BOS.

 

[Frank59]

https://www.foxnews.com/us/texas-od...uy-firearms-gun-law-loophole-background-check

 

[toddnjoyce]

I’m going to go out on a limb here and do some speculating.

There will never be verifiable proof how the POS murderer who is reported to be a prohibited person came to possess the firearm.

The media narrative will be private sale to influence support for federal UBC legislation.

 

[Southpaw]

I’m going to go out on a limb here and do some speculating.

There will never be verifiable proof how the POS murderer who is reported to be a prohibited person came to possess the firearm.

The media narrative will be private sale to influence support for federal UBC legislation.

Yep, I was thinking the same damn thing.

 

[ZX9RCAM]

So, they know that he couldn't pass NICS to purchase it, they know he bought it through a private purchase, but what was it?

 

[AustinN4]

Damn it! Cam wants to know!

 

[roadkill]

So, they know that he couldn't pass NICS to purchase it, they know he bought it through a private purchase, but what was it?

It was the gun he used but that’s not important. What is is AWB and UBC.

 

[Coiled]

Aw, you’re no fun.

Its not like he's going to listen

(Notice that I flip flopped from my previous ‘just link the thread’ comment to now nagging posters for not being willing to discuss the topic here extensively. That’s because I’m a woman and I’m allowed to flip flop like that)

Lmao! WELL worth the $$ I pay to be here.

 

[oldag]

It makes everything official, everyone feels better and it's just good policy.

All of those points are highly debatable.