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  • MountainGirl

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    I'd guess that thought was on the Deputies minds. They'll definitely be explaining their inaction.

    Agree

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    Steve In Texas

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    All you can do is 'video' the police assault and then GTFO of there!
    There were many lost opportunities: You can call for lots and lots of backup from your department. You can call for EMS. You can start making extensive notes and documentation. You can start building a case against the thugs desecrating your profession. You can possibly take the cretins into custody when sufficient backup arrives. You can render aid as soon as it can be safely rendered. You can make sure your cameras record you doing as much good as possible. I do not know all the story in Memphis and may never know, but the horror on video should be used as lessons for a long time. If we do not learn from history we are doomed to repeat it.
     

    seeker_two

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    That place east of Waco....
    The likely result of any attempt by a citizen to stop the beating by five officers, would have been an additional ambulance needed. The County Deputies present, wouldn't to anything to stop it.

    Might give some people reason to carry a rifle in the car and learn to shoot it at 50+yd targets.....
     

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    I'm wondering if there was a high speed vehicle pursuit just prior to the stop?

    I understand that the officers cited "reckless driving" as their cause for the stop. Then I hear that officials said that wasn't warranted.

    Something had them amped up, right from the beginning of the video we saw.

    I've seen several different feeds of video and all advise there is more video that hasn't been released yet. It's hard to imagine it being worse than what has been released.

    If you spend a few minutes on YouTube you'll quickly discover the socialist and communist take on it. Drilling the catch phrase..."American policing tactics". Like this is standard in our daily lives.

    They never miss an opportunity to sew hate and division. "THE PARTY FOR SOCIALISM AND LIBERATION ". You'll notice the same signs at different protests, in different cities.
    Organized and funded by who?
     
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    Cool 'Horn Luke

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    Memphis PD, like many others, lacks effective leadership in order for a police culture to have deteriorated to the point where you either thug-up or shut-up. They need to fix the top tier if they are serious about fixing the culture.
    "Like many other cities" ....hhhhmmmm, I wonder what the common thread is between them?
     

    Tnhawk

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    Memphis PD, like many others, lacks effective leadership in order for a police culture to have deteriorated to the point where you either thug-up or shut-up. They need to fix the top tier if they are serious about fixing the culture.
    The MPD Director was selected by checking all the boxes, not for qualified experience and abilities.
     

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    I'm wondering if there was a high speed vehicle pursuit just prior to the stop?

    I understand that the officers cited "reckless driving" as their cause for the stop. Then I hear that officials said that wasn't warranted.

    Something had them amped up, right from the beginning of the video we saw.

    I've seen several different feeds of video and all advise there is more video that hasn't been released yet. It's hard to imagine it being worse than what has been released.

    If you spend a few minutes on YouTube you'll quickly discover the socialist and communist take on it. Drilling the catch phrase..."American policing tactics". Like this is standard in our daily lives.

    They never miss an opportunity to sew hate and division. "THE PARTY FOR SOCIALISM AND LIBERATION ". You'll notice the same signs at different protests, in different cities.
    Organized and funded by who?

    Here’s the problem; team DoD learned the hard way with the My Lai incident when you’re given extraordinary constitutional powers, you have to be held to a higher standard. American police departments by and large take the opposite approach, standing behind qualified immunity. And that’s why they’ve lost the war of public perception.

    There is zero legal justification for 5 LEOs beating a suspect to death. The LEO on the street is not judge, jury, and executioner. It won’t surprise me in the future to see bystander engage LEOs with deadly force in a similar scenario.
     

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    Terrible thought but at the end of the day to stop what was going on it would have been justified.

    I don’t know what’s wrong with people Todd.

    Here’s what’s really fûcked up. At Uvalde it was broad daylight and a 376-1 ratio of trained LEOs to one POS that was allowed to murder 21 civillians. Between the Goines-led Harding St raid and these jokers it was 10-3 (and a dog), Tuttle likely got off a shot or two before he, Nichols, and the dog were murdered, and four LEO wounded.

    That’s the spectrum of professional LEO responses just off the top of my head. Why agencies don’t acknowledge this is a valid public perception of their performance is beyond me.
     

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    There's got to be some back story for this... What those officers did was 1,000% wrong and criminal. But why did another officer pull up and immediately join in? Seems like they had some type of history/emotional reaction to him.
    That was my thought as well.
     

    motorcarman

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    Here’s the problem; team DoD learned the hard way with the My Lai incident when you’re given extraordinary constitutional powers, you have to be held to a higher standard. American police departments by and large take the opposite approach, standing behind qualified immunity. And that’s why they’ve lost the war of public perception.

    There is zero legal justification for 5 LEOs beating a suspect to death. The LEO on the street is not judge, jury, and executioner. It won’t surprise me in the future to see bystander engage LEOs with deadly force in a similar scenario.
    JUDGE DREDD?
     

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    There's got to be some back story for this... What those officers did was 1,000% wrong and criminal. But why did another officer pull up and immediately join in? Seems like they had some type of history/emotional reaction to him.

    I viewed the video once. My immediate impression was that the severe beating was strictly personal, not business. Even the Rodney King beating with batons, IMO was business, not personal.

    A "special unit" of basically rogue cops supposedly fighting drug dealing and violence, in unmarked cars, on a routine traffic stop?

    Call me skeptical.
     

    toddnjoyce

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    I viewed the video once. My immediate impression was that the severe beating was strictly personal, not business. Even the Rodney King beating with batons, IMO was business, not personal.

    A "special unit" of basically rogue cops supposedly fighting drug dealing and violence, in unmarked cars, on a routine traffic stop?

    Call me skeptical.

    The PC for the beating was the traffic stop. ID the victim, wait for a lane change without signal and you get reckless driving PC.

    Yeah, there was something personal and that’s pre-meditated murder.
     
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