Mandatory vaccinations backfiring

[jordanmills]

What they really want is to get rid of all the whites (30 sec in, but watch the whole thing).

 

[gdr_11]

I stopped writing about the BDC (Biden/China/Democrat) virus a while ago but I can't help but ponder some of the following:

- There is no way that the U.S. will ever reach 100% injection with the mutant nanobots. Our current socialist tendencies will not allow us to force immigrants, transients and welfare receiving residents to take the jab. With that said, it is pretty obvious that this has far less to do with stopping the virus than conditioning the general population to follow orders as well as serving as a field trial of the combined legal/political/technology machine to implement a massive program.

- Even if we were able to achieve 100% injection, does anyone really believe that the virus will be stopped? We are talking about a laboratory engineered organism that is more opportunistic than anything ever found in nature. Unlike most viruses, it can and will reinfect hosts on a continual basis. The closest thing we had to this was the cases of teenage mono that would come back with symptoms years later if the host allowed themselves to get run down. This bug is not going away anytime soon. Just ask Israel where they have near 100% injection and the virus is still rampant.

- We have seen the party line on the virus change every two weeks over the past two years. It is clear that the oracles chosen by the administration to speak (CDC, Fauci and Johns Hopkins Univ) all have no idea how the virus really moves through society and what can be done to EFFECTIVELY stop it. Meanwhile some of the best minds in the scientific world at our National Laboratories and dozens of major health research universities are being kept silent or have their research censored or sanitized because they disagree with the Big 3 above. The government will pour over a dozen studies from a number of nations and then screen out the ones that disagree with the Big 3 and then publish the ones that do.

- Everyone keeps ignoring the reality that we continue to see 80%+ false positives from the Covid testing that is being used to generate the numbers in order to maintain the "pandemic" status. No one wants to discuss the reasons why the vast majority of people who test positive have no symptoms while the smaller percentage continue to have mild to severe symptoms which may lead to hospitalization. This factor alone tells me that the "scientific experts" that are steering this boat do not have a clue and continue to make it up as they go along.

No matter what we do, the bug has taken up permanent residence in human society and will not be going away anytime soon. People will continue to become ill and some will die but the 99.5% survival rate will continue which makes this a far lower threat than dozens of other major health and disease issues that have now taken a back seat so the Big Pharma giants can feed at the Covid trough.

Let's just live with it and go on.

 

[Hoji]

The vaccines do work mostly at least in keeping most out of the hospital but when the hospitals are filling up with Covid victims there is no room for people that need ICU’s for other serious health problems. In my area 90+% of Covid admissions are unvaccinated, at least that’s what we’re told.

Funny thing about the “hospitals filling up with Covid patients” though……

Our Most Reliable Pandemic Number Is Losing Meaning

A new study suggests that almost half of those hospitalized with COVID-19 have mild or asymptomatic cases.

www.theatlantic.com

 

[Hoji]

Maybe I should read the article, but why would someone who is asymptomatic seek hospitalization?

Gotta pump up the numbers to keep the panic going. And to get that sweet, sweet .gov bat AIDS $$$$

 

[oldag]

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ar...den-vaccine-mandate-marxist-takeover-military

 

[rotor]

Funny thing about the “hospitals filling up with Covid patients” though……

Our Most Reliable Pandemic Number Is Losing Meaning

A new study suggests that almost half of those hospitalized with COVID-19 have mild or asymptomatic cases.

www.theatlantic.com

Does that alter the fact that ICU beds may not be available? You pick one media report to bolster your viewpoint and it may or may not be accurate. I said that I could not verify the data. We pick and choose articles to support our beliefs. Either Covid is a serious disease or it isn’t. Either vaccines work or they don’t. Either nanobits are injected into us to control us or not. Take your pick.

 

[toddnjoyce]

Does that alter the fact that ICU beds may not be available? You pick one media report to bolster your viewpoint and it may or may not be accurate. I said that I could not verify the data.

From the Texas DSHS link I posted here earlier. Depending on region, Covidians range from 6% to 30% of total hospital capacity.

The business model for hospitals doesn’t allow for much, if any ‘excess’ capacity…cost/benefit just doesn’t work out.

While it doesn’t alter ICU availability, the state does’t report total staffed ICU beds, only available staffed ICU beds, so there is no way of knowing what percentage of ICU capacity Covidians are “taking away”. The other part is the state reporting doesn’t care how many beds exist, they care about staffed beds. If a doc goes to Cozumel for the weekend, that may reduce the number of staffed beds available while having nothing to do with covid.

 

[rotor]

From the Texas DSHS link I posted here earlier. Depending on region, Covidians range from 6% to 30% of total hospital capacity.

The business model for hospitals doesn’t allow for much, if any ‘excess’ capacity…cost/benefit just doesn’t work out.

While it doesn’t alter ICU availability, the state does’t report total staffed ICU beds, only available staffed ICU beds, so there is no way of knowing what percentage of ICU capacity Covidians are “taking away”. The other part is the state reporting doesn’t care how many beds exist, they care about staffed beds. If a doc goes to Cozumel for the weekend, that may reduce the number of staffed beds available while having nothing to do with covid.

How does that chart reflect ICU beds available? And when docs go on vacation someone is covering for them. They don’t just shut down the ICU unless it’s a really small 1 doc hospital. Not arguing, chart is not self explanatory. Also, when ICU beds are short you don’t schedule surgery that needs those beds for recovery. Care flight transfers are being affected by lack of beds according to my local news, not verified.

 

[gll]

Does that alter the fact that ICU beds may not be available? You pick one media report to bolster your viewpoint and it may or may not be accurate. I said that I could not verify the data. We pick and choose articles to support our beliefs. Either Covid is a serious disease or it isn’t. Either vaccines work or they don’t. Either nanobits are injected into us to control us or not. Take your pick.

It's pretty ridiculous to suggest that there are none who hold a mid-ground on Covid issues...

I think Covid is a real disease; somewhat more serous than the flu, potentially disastrous if it is really being used as a bio-weapon and there's another weapon to come.

The data released seems to confirm that the jabs convey some resistance to the virus, if the data being released is valid. I'm pretty well convinced that the jabs are having the effect the government wants, or they wouldn't be pushing me so hard to take it.

I doubt they really need to inject "nanobits" (if by such you mean nano-electronics) along with the mRNA to achieve their desired result, if their goal is nefarious.

Why can't you just be happy that 2/3rds of the population have taken the jab (according to gov) and leave the rest of us alone?

 

[toddnjoyce]

How does that chart reflect ICU beds available? And when docs go on vacation someone is covering for them. They don’t just shut down the ICU unless it’s a really small 1 doc hospital. Not arguing, chart is not self explanatory. Also, when ICU beds are short you don’t schedule surgery that needs those beds for recovery. Care flight transfers are being affected by lack of beds according to my local news, not verified.

Follow the link below to your heart’s content for the data the hospitals are reporting to the state. You’ll most likely be interested in the Hospitals-Regional dashboard as it has to most detailed data on capacity broken down by type/sub-type of bed.

ArcGIS Dashboards

ArcGIS Dashboards

txdshs.maps.arcgis.com

 

[rotor]

It's pretty ridiculous to suggest that there are none who hold a mid-ground on Covid issues...

I think Covid is a real disease; somewhat more serous than the flu, potentially disastrous if it is really being used as a bio-weapon and there's another weapon to come.

The data released seems to confirm that the jabs convey some resistance to the virus, if the data being released is valid. I'm pretty well convinced that the jabs are having the effect the government wants, or they wouldn't be pushing me so hard to take it.

I doubt they really need to inject "nanobits" (if by such you mean nano-electronics) along with the mRNA to achieve their desired result, if their goal is nefarious.

Why can't you just be happy that 2/3rds of the population have taken the jab (according to gov) and leave the rest of us alone?

I am happy and I don’t care how many are vaccinated. Not for me to tell you what to do. Against mandates, makes no difference to me if you are vaccinated.
Kind of like why I carry, protect me and mine. Not to protect yours. You do what you think is right.

 

[rotor]

Follow the link below to your heart’s content for the data the hospitals are reporting to the state. You’ll most likely be interested in the Hospitals-Regional dashboard as it has to most detailed data on capacity broken down by type/sub-type of bed.

Not easy to understand but here is what I see
3712 Covids in ICU beds 319 ICU adult beds available 101 pediatric ICU beds available

Am I wrong interpreting that? Seems to me that the ICU bed supply for the whole state is pretty thin.

I may be misinterpreting the chart though

 

[toddnjoyce]

Not easy to understand but here is what I see
3712 Covids in ICU beds 319 ICU adult beds available 101 pediatric ICU beds available

Am I wrong interpreting that? Seems to me that the ICU bed supply for the whole state is pretty thin.

I may be misinterpreting the chart though

To start with, click the tab at the bottom that says “Hospitals - Regional”. That would be the data you will want to look at.

 

[Brains]

Not easy to understand but here is what I see
3712 Covids in ICU beds 319 ICU adult beds available 101 pediatric ICU beds available

Am I wrong interpreting that? Seems to me that the ICU bed supply for the whole state is pretty thin.

I may be misinterpreting the chart though

I remember last year during the part where everyone was really freaking out, some hospital admin in Houston explained how the ICU bed allocations worked. He detailed how the ICU capacity numbers will always remain around the same percentage. Beds are not pre-allocated for a specific purpose or specific use, so a theoretical 1000 total bed hospital facility could have an ICU bed count of 100 today with 80 filled, but 200 total tomorrow with 160 filled. The news published it, but carried on highlighting the scary dashboard numbers and the narrative of "ICU near capacity." The administrator also said something about the ability to also repurpose other areas quickly if the need arose, but didn't go into detail. Was he trying to calm fears and spreading lies? I don't know, I don't work in a hospital. But looking at those dashboards like you just posted over the past year and a half, I'd say he was pretty spot on.

 

[rotor]

To start with, click the tab at the bottom that says “Hospitals - Regional”. That would be the data you will want to look at.

Okay. For my area, trauma service area c, 35 in ICU beds, 7 available adult ICU beds, 0 Pediatric ICU beds. That means no place for pediatric ICU and only 7 adult beds, That means 84 % of ICU beds are Covid patients and there are no peds ICU beds. That what your point is? You have to realize in a hospital the size we are talking about having only 7 adult beds puts a tremendous limit on elective surgery, especially patients that may need those beds and acute trauma cases. Do you agree with my calculations using your data source? I can not verify that the data is correct but you seem to believe it.

 

[rotor]

I remember last year during the part where everyone was really freaking out, some hospital admin in Houston explained how the ICU bed allocations worked. He detailed how the ICU capacity numbers will always remain around the same percentage. Beds are not pre-allocated for a specific purpose or specific use, so a theoretical 1000 total bed hospital facility could have an ICU bed count of 100 today with 80 filled, but 200 total tomorrow with 160 filled. The news published it, but carried on highlighting the scary dashboard numbers and the narrative of "ICU near capacity." The administrator also said something about the ability to also repurpose other areas quickly if the need arose, but didn't go into detail. Was he trying to calm fears and spreading lies? I don't know, I don't work in a hospital. But looking at those dashboards like you just posted over the past year and a half, I'd say he was pretty spot on.

So you doubt @toddnjoyce data?

 

[Brains]

So you doubt @toddnjoyce data?

It's ok big guy, I doubt yours too.

 

[rotor]

It's ok big guy, I doubt yours too.

The first dashboard I posted was today, not even my source. Do you doubt the data?

 

[toddnjoyce]

Okay. For my area, trauma service area c, 35 in ICU beds, 7 available adult ICU beds, 0 Pediatric ICU beds. That means no place for pediatric ICU and only 7 adult beds, That means 84 % of ICU beds are Covid patients and there are no peds ICU beds. That what your point is? You have to realize in a hospital the size we are talking about having only 7 adult beds puts a tremendous limit on elective surgery, especially patients that may need those beds and acute trauma cases. Do you agree with my calculations using your data source? I can not verify that the data is correct but you seem to believe it.

The $64K question is what was normal for this day in 2019. That data isn’t available. Could be that normal is 2 Adult and 0 Ped ICU (maybe due to lack of ped ICU nurses…I don’t know). Few elective procedures require ICU, by the way.

Until valid comparative data is produced the only thing I’ve see about ICU capacity is that 80% to 90% in use is ‘normal’.

2 healthcare leaders talk ICU capacity: 5 sound bites

For most level 1 trauma centers and tertiary care facilities, operating intensive care units at 80 percent to 90 percent capacity is standard — even before the COVID-19 pandemic hit. But the intensity and duration of caring for severely ill patients during the pandemic have presented unique...

www.beckershospitalreview.com

Despite have been an ICU patient before and having a NICU child that had to be transported 4 hours away (1995) because that part of the state didn’t have any NICU capability at all, I don’t really know much about them except that IC departments seem to be really dependent on particular skillsets and really, really sensitive nurse staffing levels. Like 1:1 IC trained/qualified/certified RN nurse to patient ratio is the standard, unlike other wards that may have 1:8 nurse/pt ratio with CNAs/LCNs doing most of the patient work.

 

[rotor]

The $64K question is what was normal for this day in 2019. That data isn’t available. Could be that normal is 2 Adult and 0 Ped ICU (maybe due to lack of ped ICU nurses…I don’t know). Few elective procedures require ICU, by the way.

Until valid comparative data is produced the only thing I’ve see about ICU capacity is that 80% to 90% in use is ‘normal’.

2 healthcare leaders talk ICU capacity: 5 sound bites

For most level 1 trauma centers and tertiary care facilities, operating intensive care units at 80 percent to 90 percent capacity is standard — even before the COVID-19 pandemic hit. But the intensity and duration of caring for severely ill patients during the pandemic have presented unique...

www.beckershospitalreview.com

Despite have been an ICU patient before and having a NICU child that had to be transported 4 hours away (1995) because that part of the state didn’t have any NICU capability at all, I don’t really know much about them except that IC departments seem to be really dependent on particular skillsets and really, really sensitive nurse staffing levels. Like 1:1 IC trained/qualified/certified RN nurse to patient ratio is the standard, unlike other wards that may have 1:8 nurse/pt ratio with CNAs/LCNs doing most of the patient work.

Perhaps you are right and maybe 80% of ICU beds are always filled but the chart you referred me to shows most of those beds are Covid and if ICU is normally 80% precovid than what normally goes into ICU isn’t getting in. Which I suspect is post surgery needing ICU. Whether you agree or not the data you have provided implies a ICU bed shortage because of Covid. If we believe the numbers.