Low Power Variable Optic - What's the latest/greatest?

[perfor8]

Howdy, I'm a huge fan of LPVO's, just put a Leupold VX-6HD on a PC9:

https://www.opticsplanet.com/leupold-vx-6hd-1-6x24mm-30mm-cds-zl2-firedot-duplex-riflescope.html

I'm picking up a Gunsite Scout next week, want to go a similar route. Requirements are:

High quality
True 1X by at least 4X
Illuminated
Light weight

Anything y'all are using that you like?

 

[CyberWolf]

Ok, so was about to recommend a Vortex Razor HD Gen2 E (1-6×24), these things are great (mrad):

https://vortexoptics.com/riflescope...-2-e-1-6x24-riflescope.html?vortex_reticle=25


Went to grab the link and holy shit! I must live under a rock, cuz had no idea these existed!

https://vortexoptics.com/riflescope...-1-10x24-riflescope.html?vortex_reticle=18082

Must......Con..trol....sel..f..(...shit....)

 

[pronstar]

It’s sad that I’m having trouble seeing holes in paper at 25 yards.

While I love red dots, my eyes aren’t getting any better and LPVO’s really seem to be in the sweet spot for me.

I’ve got a Vortex Razor HD 1-6.
Glass is amazing but it’s damned heavy.

And also Steiner 1-4 P4xi that needs a home...debating what I’m gonna do with it, but it’s a very nice optic.

I’m thinking of putting the Steiner in my ARX, and selling the Meprolight M21 that’s on it currently...decisions, decisions


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[perfor8]

Ok, so was about to recommend a Vortex Razor HD Gen2 E (1-6×24), these things are great (mrad):

https://vortexoptics.com/riflescope...-2-e-1-6x24-riflescope.html?vortex_reticle=25


Went to grab the link and holy shit! I must live under a rock, cuz had no idea these existed!

https://vortexoptics.com/riflescope...-1-10x24-riflescope.html?vortex_reticle=18082

Must......Con..trol....sel..f..(...shit....)

Yeah, I don't know who I'm trying to kid, this is where I'll end up.

 

[CyberWolf]

I’ve got a Vortex Razor HD 1-6.
Glass is amazing but it’s damned heavy.

Not sure on the HD gen1, but the gen2 is definitely a heavy beast.

The HD Gen2-E is way lighter than the Gen2 (heavier than a Burris MTAC, for instance, but not by that much...)

 

[perfor8]

Ok, so was about to recommend a Vortex Razor HD Gen2 E (1-6×24), these things are great (mrad):

https://vortexoptics.com/riflescope...-2-e-1-6x24-riflescope.html?vortex_reticle=25


Went to grab the link and holy shit! I must live under a rock, cuz had no idea these existed!

https://vortexoptics.com/riflescope...-1-10x24-riflescope.html?vortex_reticle=18082

Must......Con..trol....sel..f..(...shit....)

Both spec at 21.5 oz. so, yeah, heavy.

 

[CyberWolf]

Both spec at 21.5 oz. so, yeah, heavy.

yeah, the math don't lie, but it definitely feels pretty light on the gun...

Have heard good things about the NX8 also, and they do come in a bit lighter, but no direct experience with those.

 

[perfor8]

Man these things (LPVO) have come a long way in the last few years. At 1X to 10X, unless you need higher magnification, why use anything else?

I had rejected the NF ATACR as too heavy (this will actually be on a rifle for a 15 year old), but now I'm looking at the NX8 again. Basically, for this application I think I need to stay with the 30mm tubed scope, for weight.

 

[perfor8]

It’s sad that I’m having trouble seeing holes in paper at 25 yards.

While I love red dots, my eyes aren’t getting any better and LPVO’s really seem to be in the sweet spot for me.

I’ve got a Vortex Razor HD 1-6.
Glass is amazing but it’s damned heavy.

And also Steiner 1-4 P4xi that needs a home...debating what I’m gonna do with it, but it’s a very nice optic.

I’m thinking of putting the Steiner in my ARX, and selling the Meprolight M21 that’s on it currently...decisions, decisions


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I bet if I dug around in all the places my wife doesn't know about I could find 25 Aimpoints. There's a comp M4 on my truck gun now. But with the LPVO's available these days, I should probably sell them all because I don't know if I'll ever mount another one.

 

[Dawico]

So why get a Gunsight Scout and not put a scout scope on it?

You could get a Ruger American or a million other choices if you were intending on putting a rifle scope on it.

 

[smittyb]

Burris RT-6 blows the Strike Eagle out of the water. It’s not even close.
Everyone who has compared mine to a Vortex agrees. The glass is maybe just slightly better, but the eye box is WORLDS better. The best part is RT-6 can be found for under $300.
The XTRII 1-8 is comparable to the RazorHD, for less money.
The Trijicon 1-6 is also a great choice, but expensive.

 

[perfor8]

So why get a Gunsight Scout and not put a scout scope on it?

You could get a Ruger American or a million other choices if you were intending on putting a rifle scope on it.

I assume by "scout scope" you're referring to the Cooper classic definition. Cooper didn't have available the scopes that exist today. Why limit yourself to 2X - 8X power when you can get a variable that goes from 1X to whatever? Illuminated 1X is effectively an RDS. Unless I misunderstand your meaning?

Ruger Americans are ugly. I don't buy ugly guns. Well, unless they're Glocks, or synthetic stock Tikkas, or enclosed-hammer J-frames, or...

 

[perfor8]

Burris RT-6 blows the Strike Eagle out of the water. It’s not even close.
Everyone who has compared mine to a Vortex agrees. The glass is maybe just slightly better, but the eye box is WORLDS better. The best part is RT-6 can be found for under $300.
The XTRII 1-8 is comparable to the RazorHD, for less money.
The Trijicon 1-6 is also a great choice, but expensive.

Yeah, I've shot those Burris (and liked them), but now I'm a glass snob, so I don't. I'm not sure of the compared eye relief between the 2 but it won't usually affect me once mounted - I'm a cheek weld nut. If I can't create a repeatable cheek weld on a rifle I'm not interested.

 

[FireInTheWire]

I've been pleased with my Sig Tango 4 1-4x28

 

[smittyb]

Yeah, I've shot those Burris (and liked them), but now I'm a glass snob, so I don't. I'm not sure of the compared eye relief between the 2 but it won't usually affect me once mounted - I'm a cheek weld nut. If I can't create a repeatable cheek weld on a rifle I'm not interested.

If you are a glass snob, I have something you might be interested in.
IOR LTS 1-10x26 FFP.

 

[perfor8]

If you are a glass snob, I have something you might be interested in.
IOR LTS 1-10x26 FFP.

25 ounces! They must be loading these things up with buckshot.

 

[smittyb]

Vortex is 22.

 

[perfor8]

Yup, lighter would be better.

 

[pronstar]

Not sure on the HD gen1, but the gen2 is definitely a heavy beast.

The HD Gen2-E is way lighter than the Gen2 (heavier than a Burris MTAC, for instance, but not by that much...)

Yeah it’s a Gen2 1-6
She’s a whopper at 25.2 ounces...but the glass is amazing

My Steiner P4xi is only a 1-5, but it’s a relative lightweight at 17.3 ounces


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[txgrant]

A more budget friendly alternative to the Vortex Razor is the Primary Arms RAPTOR 1X6. It's got a great reticle and is also FFP which is pretty sweet.

https://www.primaryarms.com/pa-1-6x...ifle-scope-with-acss-raptor-556-reticle-black