IF the current bill becomes law, how will it change what you are doing now?

[kyletxria1911a1]

Danger to yourself with that kind of mindset...

BS ima gonna carry my glock 4tay wit homeboy sights, and pimp hat.
And look goooood

 

[vmax]

BS ima gonna carry my glock 4tay wit homeboy sights, and pimp hat.
And look goooood

"Security to page 19....Security to page 19"
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[kyletxria1911a1]

"Security to page 19....Security to page 19"
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but but iz legal officer.

 

[kyletxria1911a1]

Man you made my day. The more thought da mo funny

 

[txinvestigator]

BS ima gonna carry my glock 4tay wit homeboy sights, and pimp hat.
And look goooood

So, just another day for you

 

[kyletxria1911a1]

So, just another day for you

what's up my man

 

[vmax]

Man you made my day. The more thought da mo funny

well, you know,, I;m just trying to keep my job around here

 

[BIGPAPIGREG]

but but iz legal officer.

we need to see papers................you gots papers Mr?????









nooooooooooooooooooooo, not them kinda papers...................................ahhhh to hell with it, lets do this

 

[SC-Texas]

I Think we should prepare to start targeting businesses That post 30.06 and 30.07 signs

 

[Mike1234567]

I Think we should prepare to start targeting businesses That post 30.06 and 30.07 signs

I already do that. If I see a sign I turn around and walk away.

 

[Green Eye Tactical]

I already do that. If I see a sign I turn around and walk away.

Yep, I started carrying the no gun-no cash cards and leaving them as well

 

[ShootWhenICan]

If you have a CHL will you do anything differently?

Won't change anything for me.
I'm still concealing.
Don't see the point in advertizing this.

 

[don1911]

Yep, I started carrying the no gun-no cash cards and leaving them as well

Where'd those cards come from? Something generic you bought or something you had printed for yourself?

I need some.

 

[BIGPAPIGREG]

To those that will OC (or anyone for that mater), will there be any thought or change as to where on your person you carry your handgun? Are you maybe considering different holsters, something with retention?

 

[peeps]

To those that will OC (or anyone for that mater), will there be any thought or change as to where on your person you carry your handgun? Are you maybe considering different holsters, something with retention?

Will probably change from appendix to strong side..still concealed in public

 

[vmax]

when and if it goes into effect, CC will mean "Comfortable Carry" to me, because this fat boy will go OWB, but still concealed but now I can do it with comfort

 

[RCK1999]

when and if it goes into effect, CC will mean "Comfortable Carry" to me, because this fat boy will go OWB, but still concealed but now I can do it with comfort

Ha ha. You are so right. I'm there with you, especially when it's 150 degrees outside. My big concern is if we will see a proliferation of 30.07 signs.

 

[Southpaw]

when and if it goes into effect, CC will mean "Comfortable Carry" to me, because this fat boy will go OWB, but still concealed but now I can do it with comfort

This, for me as well.

 

[Davetex]

Me too.

 

[DarkwingDuck]

My big concern is if we will see a proliferation of 30.07 signs.

I believe the day one rate of 30.07 will be far less than 50% of the current 30.06 sign base

Those properties which have correctly posted 30.06 signs are most likely to be staying abreast of the pending legislation. Assuming the legislation is enacted sometime in the early summer, those places will have ~6 months to print, manufacture & install the new 30.07 signs.

The proposed 30.07 language is very similar to the current 30.06 language. A properly posted 30.06 sign is about by 2' x 2' by my casual observation. For a property owner to properly restrict both concealed and open carry via signage, he would need to dedicate ~2' x 4' of space to the signage. This is not an insignificant amount of display space, especially when considering many of these signs are posted on or directly adjacent to entrance doors. Rarely have I seen a 30.06 sign posted by itself. Other notifications are posted as well - TABC, NS/NS/NS, Store Hours, etc. The layout of these will need to be considered when adding the new 30.07 sign and IMHO will slow down initial adoption.

I would not expect new adoption to be high either. I don't believe many property owners will choose to solely prohibit open carry. Those properties which choose to post new 30.07 signs (where no 30.06 sign currently exists) are likely to be caught up in the MDA/Bloomberg emotion-driven rhetoric, which is already a small, if not waning, number. Wanting to restrict open carry - and learning the new language - will lead them to learn of the 30.06 sign required to restrict concealed carry. Now they are posting two signs and learning their current gunbuster sign is, and has been, worthless. Will there be new 30.07 signs? Of course. Despite much internet conjecture, I don't believe there exists a significant number of property owners whom are okay with concealed carry but not open carry.

Something interesting to consider is the slight difference in the language between 30.06 and 30.07. 30.06 requires a sign "is displayed in a conspicuous manner clearly visible to the public" (link). As currently engrossed in SB17, 30.07 would require a sign that "is displayed in a conspicuous manner clearly visible to the public at each entrance to the property." (link) There are some examples of current 30.06 signs which do not meet the 30.07 location requirement - and they wouldn't need to. This could lead to an unique case where a 30.06 is posted apart from a 30.07 sign at a given location. In theory a CHL holder, while concealed carrying, could walk through a side entrance which has a 30.07 sign while the sole 30.06 sign is posted elsewhere. As has been theorized, but not yet tested in a court of law, said CHL holder would not have been given proper notice for 30.06. Would an unintentional display (an OWB pistol in "comfort carry" becomes briefly visible while adjusting or reaching) be protected by 30.06 or considered a violation of 30.07?

DWD