Coronavirus Epidemic, Part 2

[Vaquero]

Actually I think the numbers in the U.S. are closer to .15% - .17% due to estimated numbers of those believed to be positive.

Estimated and believed go out the window on a locked down cruise ship. The diamond princess represent the real numbers with a respectable number of "lab patients". Controlled numbers. Nobody boards, nobody leaves. This is the real world numbers.

 

[easy rider]

Estimated and believed go out the window on a locked down cruise ship. The diamond princess represent the real numbers with a respectable number of "lab patients". Controlled numbers. Nobody boards, nobody leaves. This is the real world numbers.

But then were they restricted to their cabins when the outbreak began? It's now beginning to show that those restricted to their homes are showing a higher level of testing positive.

 

[Vaquero]

I guess they went overboard and swam around for a while.

Sigh.

 

[easy rider]

I guess they went overboard and swam around for a while.

Sigh.

I'm not really disagreeing that it's most certainly been conflated numbers. Just that there are a lot of variables that must be taken into account when comparing, for instance, proximity and conditions of a cruise ship compared to say the average Texan.

 

[Texasgordo]

 

[Texasgordo]

 

[Texasgordo]

 

[Texasgordo]

 

[Texasgordo]

 

[TX OMFS]

Estimated and believed go out the window on a locked down cruise ship. The diamond princess represent the real numbers with a respectable number of "lab patients". Controlled numbers. Nobody boards, nobody leaves. This is the real world numbers.

For a matched cohort of patients. Not necessarily for our population at large.

In other words, the sample size isn't large enough to make absolute conclusions.

 

[Texasgordo]

 

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[pronstar]

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Yes!!!!!
We don’t even have kids!


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[jrbfishn]

Estimated and believed go out the window on a locked down cruise ship. The diamond princess represent the real numbers with a respectable number of "lab patients". Controlled numbers. Nobody boards, nobody leaves. This is the real world numbers.

For a matched cohort of patients. Not necessarily for our population at large.

In other words, the sample size isn't large enough to make absolute conclusions.

Actually, overall, the cruise ship numbers probably would are not far off.
On Laura Ingraham tonight. I have no reason to doubt the numbers,
For Pennsylvania,
Under 45- 33 dead
Under 60- 307 dead
Over half the dead are over 85 years of age.
And it is pretty much the same in most states. The vast majority of dead are over 60-65 years of age.
Nationally, I believe the number of kids under 18yrs of age is 108.
But the Flu has killed 24,000 kids.
The only thing new and novel about this virus is the target group. It discriminates and targets the oldest. Unlike other corona viruses that kills indiscriminately. And we knew that much BEFORE it got to the U.S.. And from what I have seen, having a target age group was the one factor they did not use.
Shutting down the entire Country was wrong any way you look at it. If we had protected our oldest and weakest instead of trying to protect those that don't need it we would have been better off. Economically and in the death toll. Probably much less than the Flu.
But that would appear discriminatory to the cry babies. How dare us protect old people!
I think they said 2/3 of the dead are from nursing homes, hospice and elderly care facilities.

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[BillFairbanks]

I would think a cruise ship would be an almost worst case scenario. Cruise passengers probably trend older than the general population and they are in a more confined area. Since the virus allegedly spreads before symptoms, the on board quarantine may not have had much of an affect on the spread.


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[Shady]

But then were they restricted to their cabins when the outbreak began? It's now beginning to show that those restricted to their homes are showing a higher level of testing positive.

Restricted to cabins with AC pumped into them and that air came from all over the ship so ya I think the rate of infection might be high in a closed compartmented box with recirculated air.

 

[oldag]

For a matched cohort of patients. Not necessarily for our population at large.

In other words, the sample size isn't large enough to make absolute conclusions.

3700 under controlled conditions is pretty darn good, gives a high confidence level.

 

[gdr_11]

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Mercedes has just signed a deal to sell new buses to all Texas school districts. Nothing but the best for the kids!

 

[oldag]

Mercedes has just signed a deal to sell new buses to all Texas school districts. Nothing but the best for the kids!

They use Mercedes for taxis in Europe.

 

[TheDan]

Everywhere else Mercedes is just another car. We think of them as luxury cars because they only sell their higher trim levels here. A base model Ford Fusion is a nicer car than a base model Mercedes in Europe.