Hehe, post # 176 and you're all still here....
Didn't say I would stop checking. I was just trying to help BreakingContact break contact.
I'll be here to the bitter end.
Hehe, post # 176 and you're all still here....
I won't even talk about politics ... in this thread!
Obama was elected...twice.
Al Gore.
Indicted. I was trapped.Liar.
Liar.
...For Army Special Operators in training, nobody yells at you or attempts to get you to "be aggressive" when teaching marksmanship or fundamentals. the purpose is to build surgical accuracy and clean mechanics to fall back on when stress levels pick up...
Not even when CQB begins are you prompted to be aggressive. You are taught to BE DECISIVE. Make a decision and follow through. You are constantly fighting being over-amped, which will help you never. The interesting thing about the Speed, Surprise and Violence of Action is that the "Violence of Action" part does not mean you throw on a war face, flex as hard as you can, or run around screaming. It simply means you decisively engage with overwhelming force that is achieved by accurate firepower. Something to think about in your training.
And on for the "heart" shot placement, my head hurt a little listening to that. Your proper initial point of aim is center, high on the chest. Your preferred target is the spine. If you miss and hit the lung or heart, that's ok but it won't immediately prevent your hostile target from stopping his actions.
But, the conversation has gotten off topic from the OP anyways (and I'm a guilty party in de-railing it as well).
Slightly different way of what I was advocating in the video.
I was also struck how the following mirrors how the competition shooter training to shoot in USPSA and IDPA style matches
I've coached a number of shooters and with good records and a timer you can show them how 0.10 seconds is typically the difference between the pinnacle of their performance (hits as fast as they can get them) and crashing and burning (out of control shooting, un-aimed/not aimed enough, many misses). They are over-amp as you say
While I used the heart as starting point in describing the size of targets which effect a stop quickly, I did move on to the spine and brain, all as support for my opinion that 8" at short distance while happy and hunky dory on the range is likely insufficient marksmanship skill. Because, as you said, "the purpose is to build surgical accuracy and clean mechanics to fall back on when stress levels pick up..."
I completely agree that the CNS will more assuredly end the threat, but those shots require the surgical accuracy and clean mechanics we both seem to be advocating.
I would never argue that shot from the oblique through both lungs and the heart is guaranteed to instantly, but it does have a high likelihood of doing so. When faced head on the shot through the heart will likely damage the spine bringing on at least instantaneous paralysis allowing the destroyed heart or major artery to have it's impact.
No matter what little differences we might hold, it appears we agree on the larger premise that being a very good shooter is a bone to surviving the gun fight.
I appreciate you taking the time to share your insights on this thread.
Off-topic, but still related and all is good.
You're out of DFW right?
Sound argument.Just figured out why the switch to 9mm.
Due to "combat accuracy" nobody can hit anything so more rounds are REQUIRED downrange to get the job done, hence the larger capacity
of the 9mm.
Who, me?
I meant where you run training out of. I can't see signatures on Tapatalk for some reason but I found your site.