China sticks it to US ammo manufactuers

[wiredgeorge]

China’s Export Crackdown Sparks Crisis in U.S. Ammunition Market

The recent decision by China to halt the export of two critical components —nitrocellulose and antimony— has raised alarms within the U.S. ammunition manufacturing industry and among defense experts. These materials are indispensable in the production of propellant powder and primers, and their...

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[Gordo]

All part of the china/biden plan.

 

[dsgrey]

Article mentions reopening a mine in the US. The problem much like oil, the company(s) will sell the product to the highest bidder which includes the non-US market which could cause a US shortage or forced high prices.

 

[baboon]

You know what would make America great again? Not having to count on other countries for products that we made in the past.

 

[oldag]

Free trade ignores national security implications.

 

[Darkpriest667]

I will continue to buy from Palmetto State, who isn't in bed with China or the Military.

 

[SARGE67]

That’s one way to easily defeat your enemy. Just don’t provide them ammo materials.

 

[Mowingmaniac 24/7]

Why aren't our engineers/scientists working on inventing different propellants?

 

[TAZ]

Why aren't our engineers/scientists working on inventing different propellants?

Cause they need to invent better safe spaces.

I sure am glad we gave piles of ammo to a corrupt country.

Reopen the mines, designate them as national security items and under ITAR control. Hammer anyone who sells a grain of sand from there to any foreign nationals. But that would make it America first and that’s racist.


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[Texasjack]

IT"S NOT CHINA'S FAULT!

It's our fault. Why on earth would an American powder manufacturer allow themselves to be dependent on China? Why would the US government allow such a critical industry to be in that situation?

Greed probably explains some of it. Unreasonable regulatory environment no doubt has a part. (I spent 45+ years working with that, so I know how bad it can be.) Some of it, maybe most of it, could be intentional on the part of certain powerful people.

Nitrocellulose used to be called gun cotton. You treat cotton (which we grow) with nitric and sulfuric acids (which we make) and you get the base for smokeless powder. There are other ingredients, but we easily have the capacity to make them and we have made them in the past - for at least 100 years. In double base powders, you add nitroglycerin which is made by nitrating glycerin, a waste product from making soap.

So how do we close the gap between "we can easily do these things" to "We're doing them again!"?

I really should pay less attention to what's going on. It tends to aggravate the hell out of me.

 

[Lead Belly]

IT"S NOT CHINA'S FAULT!

Fault makes it sound accidental. It's obviously intentional.

 

[crystalphoto]

Fault makes it sound accidental. It's obviously intentional

Of course it is, what is simpler than taking a country that has no ammo...



Hahahahahahahaha hahahahah!! They don't think like rednecks do...

 

[MountainGirl]

So how do we close the gap between "we can easily do these things" to "We're doing them again!"?

One good war should do the trick.

 

[Younggun]

Article mentions reopening a mine in the US. The problem much like oil, the company(s) will sell the product to the highest bidder which includes the non-US market which could cause a US shortage or forced high prices.

That still means more supply for the same overall demand. And since china will be cheaper anyways due to an overall lack of any safety or environmental regulation and dirt cheap wages they will most likely be the cheaper product for anyone they haven’t refused to sell to.

That said, it’s going to increase prices here regardless.

 

[Lonesome Dove]

Why aren't our engineers/scientists working on inventing different propellants?

Democratic leadership

 

[Lonesome Dove]

IT"S NOT CHINA'S FAULT!

It's our fault. Why on earth would an American powder manufacturer allow themselves to be dependent on China? Why would the US government allow such a critical industry to be in that situation?

Greed probably explains some of it. Unreasonable regulatory environment no doubt has a part. (I spent 45+ years working with that, so I know how bad it can be.) Some of it, maybe most of it, could be intentional on the part of certain powerful people.

Nitrocellulose used to be called gun cotton. You treat cotton (which we grow) with nitric and sulfuric acids (which we make) and you get the base for smokeless powder. There are other ingredients, but we easily have the capacity to make them and we have made them in the past - for at least 100 years. In double base powders, you add nitroglycerin which is made by nitrating glycerin, a waste product from making soap.

So how do we close the gap between "we can easily do these things" to "We're doing them again!"?

I really should pay less attention to what's going on. It tends to aggravate the hell out of me.

Naw they would just Unionize it and make it too costly to be worth while.

 

[kbaxter60]

Why aren't our engineers/scientists working on inventing our ray guns different propellants?

FIFY

It was tongue in cheek, but after thinking about it, it would be a very American thing to do to simply obsolete the issue.
You know, the old America.