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  • Rafe

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    In this article yesterday from Business Insider is an interesting tidbit I hadn't realized. I knew companies were making an exodus from California--which has the highest income tax of any state and where the average cost of a home is over $790K--but I hadn't been keeping track of where the Fortune 500s are moving.


    In the latest tally of the Fortune 500, California was home to 55 of them, and Texas 52. The recent announcement that Chevron is leaving California, where it was founded in 1879, and moving to Houston makes the new split 54/53.

    When Musk makes good on his promise (accompanied by what amounts to a middle finger for Gavin Newsom) to move X (Twitter) to Austin, then Cali will drop to second place with 53 Fortune 500 companies and Texas will take the lead with 54. New York has 52 Fortune 500s, and in fourth place is Illinois with 32.

    Improving financial strength (and the political leverage it can also bring) doesn't hurt Texas one bit. But it doesn't reduce the number of vehicles on the freeways and tollways, the need for more housing, and that CenterPoint and other providers better get their acts together and do more to harden the last-mile of the energy distribution system. Just sayin'...as what will be Cat1 Debby approaches Florida and we still have the most active hurricane season weeks ahead of us.
     

    Mohawk600

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    I love to see my beloved Texas doing well financially...........but I sure don't like to see all of these political refugees from Kalifornia moving here. Because they bring their politics here too. Even if they are leaving because they don't agree with the draconian politics of Kalifornia..........they don't necessarily come here because they embrace the general conservatism of Texas (I am fully aware that there are liberal enclaves in Texas - I live in one).

    I have family in Kalifornia that I would not want moving here, because, although not complete libtards, they would vote democrap.
     

    Rafe

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    I love to see my beloved Texas doing well financially...........but I sure don't like to see all of these political refugees from Kalifornia moving here. Because they bring their politics here too. Even if they are leaving because they don't agree with the draconian politics of Kalifornia..........they don't necessarily come here because they embrace the general conservatism of Texas (I am fully aware that there are liberal enclaves in Texas - I live in one).

    I have family in Kalifornia that I would not want moving here, because, although not complete libtards, they would vote democrap.

    Yep; I get it. But change is constant. Nothing ever stands still, and I'd rather be growing than contracting. It would also make me happy if, in 2030, California is forced to give up one or two more congressional seats to Texas.
     

    cbp210

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    Rejoice types of people move to Texas from Commiefornia. Refugees, who are looking to escape liberalism and welcome the lifestyle in the Lone Star State (this includes me). Then it the folks following their job. They like it in Commiefornia and are only moving to Texas as their employer did. These are the problem as they still see liberalism and progressive policies as the way to go.
    I see this more from people coming from Chicago and NY.
     

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    After several 10s of millions of illegals from Central and South America entering the US, I propose in the name of Diversity and Inclusion, that we open the borders to anyone from a former Soviet republic like Ukraine, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, and Romania. For one, a background check at the border is likely to be effective since those countries actually have a criminal record system to review. Second, they remember the feel of the Soviet boot on their neck, and the daily misery of living under Socialism. They will make good conservative voters.
    Actually we are already bringing them in especially Ukraine. Poland, Estonia, Latvia does not even need a visa for them to come here as they are now part of the Visa Waiver Countries like most West European countries.
     

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    Anyone spending time on places like Reddit or 4Chan will see that there's a push in lefty circles to turn Texas purple, then eventually blue. There are those that have said they're willing to move here to push the cause. They go to places like Austin and Houston and Dallas though, because that just strengthens the already blue areas. On paper it would be easier for them to flip the low population counties blue, but they'll not do that because they wouldn't get Amazon prime next day, they wouldn't have Trader Joes or Whole Foods 10-20 minutes away, and they'd be surrounded by some of the harder core conservative born & raised Texans.

    They have targetted other states that will be easier to flip as well, Idaho being one, along with Montana and Wyoming. Montana has always been a bit of politically weird swing state. They tend to elect Democrat governors, but the people themselves are very rugged individualist types. Conservative democrats, or libertarian republicans would be a good descriptor for the average Montanan that I've met.

    Idaho as a whole has fewer people in the whole state than in the city of Houston. Like Texas, they've seen a flood of Californians moving there, a lot of them right leaning, but some lefties who got tired of mask mandates but can't abandon leftist ideology as a whole.

    Democrats are good at playing the long game, far better than the GOP is. Don't be surprised if they do try to push Texas and other red states into the purple or blue shades. It might be 2030, 2040, or even 2050 but it *can* happen.
     

    Grumps21

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    Anyone spending time on places like Reddit or 4Chan will see that there's a push in lefty circles to turn Texas purple, then eventually blue. There are those that have said they're willing to move here to push the cause. They go to places like Austin and Houston and Dallas though, because that just strengthens the already blue areas. On paper it would be easier for them to flip the low population counties blue, but they'll not do that because they wouldn't get Amazon prime next day, they wouldn't have Trader Joes or Whole Foods 10-20 minutes away, and they'd be surrounded by some of the harder core conservative born & raised Texans.

    They have targetted other states that will be easier to flip as well, Idaho being one, along with Montana and Wyoming. Montana has always been a bit of politically weird swing state. They tend to elect Democrat governors, but the people themselves are very rugged individualist types. Conservative democrats, or libertarian republicans would be a good descriptor for the average Montanan that I've met.

    Idaho as a whole has fewer people in the whole state than in the city of Houston. Like Texas, they've seen a flood of Californians moving there, a lot of them right leaning, but some lefties who got tired of mask mandates but can't abandon leftist ideology as a whole.
    Ive been to Idaho twice over the past few years, and I’d say the Boise (Austin light) is leading the charge. The rest of the state seems conservative based on how they carry themselves. Wyoming has Jackson Hole which is a retreat for the Californians. Immediate turn off so we left. Laramie is liberal, but probably due to the university. The rest of the state seemed centrist to me. Montana didn’t give me a vibe either way, but I’d think they would be right leaning. Oregon really surprised me. The number of coal rollers and Trump flags was astounding. Totally blew my image of what Oregon was like. Rural Oregon might as well have been rural Texas. Of course this was not anywhere near Portland.
     

    Sasquatch

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    Ive been to Idaho twice over the past few years, and I’d say the Boise (Austin light) is leading the charge. The rest of the state seems conservative based on how they carry themselves. Wyoming has Jackson Hole which is a retreat for the Californians. Immediate turn off so we left. Laramie is liberal, but probably due to the university. The rest of the state seemed centrist to me. Montana didn’t give me a vibe either way, but I’d think they would be right leaning. Oregon really surprised me. The number of coal rollers and Trump flags was astounding. Totally blew my image of what Oregon was like. Rural Oregon might as well have been rural Texas. Of course this was not anywhere near Portland.

    Yeah - Oregon, like Washington, Idaho, even California - by county map is bright red. Unfortunately enclaves of lefty loons like Portland, Ashland, Salem, Eugene and Bend along with Seattle, Tacoma, and Yakima (drug haven) and Boise ruin the place. On the three west coast states - if you get 20 miles from interstate 5 or Hwy 101, its like a whole other planet.

    I grew up 20 miles west of downtown Portland. Until the late 2010's my home county was a solidly republican county. We'd elected republican representatives to the state legislature for something like 20+ years straight, but then thru redistricting shenanigans the dems redrew the lines and suddenly we got roped into democrat state senators and representatives. They gerrymandered the districts to crush republicans. Hell, Oregon even had Republicans in the house of reps (southern Oregon is very red despite Ashland and Medford). The million people in Portland essentially own the state politically though.

    You go east of the summit of the Cascade mountains and you're in deep, deep red country save for Bend, which itself is on the more conservative side of democrat country anyway. Until 2020, the state was very libertarian as far as personal freedoms and gun laws went. Shall issue concealed carry (its still shall issue) with no range qual nonsense, you could do the safety class online. You could carry past "no guns" signs, you could carry in schools, hospitals, stadiums - the only places you legit were prohibited were the sterile areas of airports, court houses (unless you had written permission from the presiding judge), federal installations where carry was prohibited, and that was about it.

    I carried to every school function, parent teacher conference, and while waiting with the other parents for school to let out (lived too close for the bus, so we walked the mile to the school to get kiddo and picked him up on the playground.) Also carried whenever visiting people in the hospital, rehab centers, and nursing homes. Carried to every doctor's appointment, and once even wound up carrying in a psych ward visiting a friend (who didn't tell us she was in the psych ward, and we didn't find out till we got off the elevator - concealed meant concealed for sure on that one!) and it was all 100% legal. We also had no duty to notify LE we were carrying if stopped, but if they ran your DL it did return that you had a CHL. Open carry was 100% legal without a license outside of a handful of cities they grandfathered in when passing the shall-issue law, and if you had a CHL you could carry openly there as well without reprisal.

    As a whole, even the democrats typically shot down every attempt to pass a state wide general sales tax. When the legislature would try imposing one, it ALWAYS went to voter referrendum and always got shot down. We even overturned the legislature's attempt to legalize giving state ID's and DL's to illegal aliens - that went down by voter referrendum as well. What the democrats started doing was slapping the "emergency clause" on every fucking piece of legislation they passed, because "emergencies" prevented referrendums. That's how they got away with shoving UBC's down our throats, and how they passed the gun laws in 2020 including magazine caps (which was overturned by the STATE surpreme court, shockingly) and the gun owner ID card shit similar to Illinois.

    The area @Sam7sf grew up in was a mix - lefty area because of the university but also still very conservative in many ways, and always seemed to elect conservative sheriffs. Last Sheriff I voted for there (and for two elections before that) was Pat Garrett (a name that might ring some bells for history buffs) and he was one of the sheriffs that boldly stood up for 2A rights and always had his deputies backs.

    If the democrats there could get out voted even ONCE, the place would change for the better overnight. But they're going on 37 years of one party rule in the governor's mansion, and even longer with the mayor's office in Portland.
     

    TheDan

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    Seems like most leftists hate Elon for whatever reason, do you think everyone he employs will move here and continue hating him?
    You underestimate the mental disconnect of most people, but especially libtards. They'll happily buy soy lattes with their paycheck while bitching about how their employer is a fascist.
     

    G O B

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    Anyone spending time on places like Reddit or 4Chan will see that there's a push in lefty circles to turn Texas purple, then eventually blue. There are those that have said they're willing to move here to push the cause. They go to places like Austin and Houston and Dallas though, because that just strengthens the already blue areas. On paper it would be easier for them to flip the low population counties blue, but they'll not do that because they wouldn't get Amazon prime next day, they wouldn't have Trader Joes or Whole Foods 10-20 minutes away, and they'd be surrounded by some of the harder core conservative born & raised Texans.

    They have targetted other states that will be easier to flip as well, Idaho being one, along with Montana and Wyoming. Montana has always been a bit of politically weird swing state. They tend to elect Democrat governors, but the people themselves are very rugged individualist types. Conservative democrats, or libertarian republicans would be a good descriptor for the average Montanan that I've met.

    Idaho as a whole has fewer people in the whole state than in the city of Houston. Like Texas, they've seen a flood of Californians moving there, a lot of them right leaning, but some lefties who got tired of mask mandates but can't abandon leftist ideology as a whole.

    Democrats are good at playing the long game, far better than the GOP is. Don't be surprised if they do try to push Texas and other red states into the purple or blue shades. It might be 2030, 2040, or even 2050 but it *can* happen.
    I saw them do this to Maryland. 50 years ago, it was a pretty conservative State, THEN THE YANKIES CAME FOR THE GOVERNMENT JOBS. Then they found that it is cheaper to buy elections in a small State.
     

    andre3k

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    Texas was a blue state 35 years ago. I do not agree with everything in the article but mostly accurate.

    Yeah but the blue from 35 years ago is vastly different from the blue of today.

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    Johnny Diamond

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    I saw them do this to Maryland. 50 years ago, it was a pretty conservative State, THEN THE YANKIES CAME FOR THE GOVERNMENT JOBS. Then they found that it is cheaper to buy elections in a small State.
    It all started in kali!

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