Better off to carry with none in the chamber than not at all?

[paknheat]

I’m all about that Condition X.


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[Tnhawk]

9 year old thread....

How I carry hasn't changed during the last nine years.

 

[ZX9RCAM]

How I carry hasn't changed during the last nine years.

Sure.

I was referring to people responding to 9 year old posts, as if they were from yesterday.

 

[TxStetson]

Sure.

I was referring to people responding to 9 year old posts, as if they were from yesterday.

I done told you how that happened.

 

[TheDan]

9 year old thread....

Yeah but if they started a new thread about carry condition you'd have pointed out there was already a thread on that

IMO it's preferable to contribute to an old thread than start a new one.

 

[ZX9RCAM]

Yeah but if they started a new thread about carry condition you'd have pointed out there was already a thread on that

IMO it's preferable to contribute to an old thread than start a new one.

Yes, I prefer contributing to existing threads as well.

As far as the rest, refer to post #123.

 

[Howie68]

Some that carry appendix are reluctant to carry chambered. Understandable. However, statistically speaking, we have a nanosecond to react and draw. There have been incidents where the firearm could not be racked in time or effectively and it turned out badly for the defender.

 

[Tnhawk]

I wouldn't expect a criminal to honor my request for a time out, while I load my weapon, but that's just me. If I need to carry for protection it will be loaded. If I'm on the way to the range it will be unloaded in a range bag.

 

[Lonesome Dove]

Some that carry appendix are reluctant to carry chambered. Understandable. However, statistically speaking, we have a nanosecond to react and draw. There have been incidents where the firearm could not be racked in time or effectively and it turned out badly for the defender.

And many times the defender shot themselves. Or never even predicted the trigger.

 

[seeker_two]

Since the OP, I've had some time to think about this.....

While chamber-loaded carry is the best option, chamber-empty carry may not be as detrimental as first thought. If a perp is close enough that racking a slide makes that much difference, then the perp may be too close for you to draw period. That's when you go for his weapon instead of yours. Also, chamber-empty carry can help foil a gun grab if you're in a situation where it could be likely....like around prisoners or the mentally ill. Then again, most carriers shouldn't be in those situations in the first place....

Again, I'm not advocating chamber-empty carry....just putting it in context....

 

[leVieux]

These were some of my concerns as well. My advice was "carry however you will but you have to train for it".

I suppose this can be a start then perhaps said individual can move on to better carry techniques as they get more familiar and confident with carrying.

My main concern is that a person carrying a gun with nothing in the chamber, is counting on having time, distance, both hands and on and on. I am also more concerned about a gun grab if no round is chambered.

So that puts them at a disadvantage in many situations.

Not having a gun puts them at a disadvantage in all situations.

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In my decades of OC & CC I have avoided actual violence by just firmly stating that I was armed.

Of course, if an attacker decides to try to “call that bluff”, I’d certainly want to have a round chambered.

I’ve never actually had to “draw” & fire for a Human attacker.

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[ScottDLS]

Once could always carry like the National Guardsmen in the airports right after 9/11, no round in the M16 and no magazine in the rifle. They could have at least had a bayonet....so they wouldn't have to just beat the bad guys with their rifle. But the sheep were probably pretty impressed with those scary looking M-16A2's.

I talked to a friend in the Guard and asked why they didn't have M9 Beretta Pistols, which would have made a better weapon for guarding an airport. He said because Army doctrine was that typically only officers and senior NCO's carried pistols.

 

[Axxe55]

IF NOT CHAMBERED A GUN IS PRETTY MUCH A PAPERWEIGHT!

 

[glenbo]

IF NOT CHAMBERED A GUN IS PRETTY MUCH A PAPERWEIGHT!

Or a very unweildy club.

 

[Axxe55]

Or a very unweildy club.

AN ALL STEEL FRAMED PISTOL CAN BE AN EFFECTIVE CLIB!

 

[Wudidiz]

If you are reluctant to carry with one in the chamber, maybe you should find a friend who does and have him/her hang with you when you go places.

 

[Tnhawk]

And many times the defender shot themselves. Or never even predicted the trigger.

Some shouldn't carry at all.

 

[MountainGirl]

I know it's an old thread but I appreciate reading the ideas on this. I carry chambered for the sole reason that IF I'm going to join a situation, I won't want the sound of racking announcing my entry; giving me more time for a quiet lethal shot.

 

[paknheat]

I know it's an old thread but I appreciate reading the ideas on this. I carry chambered for the sole reason that IF I'm going to join a situation, I won't want the sound of racking announcing my entry; giving me more time for a quiet lethal shot.

Damn straight. I like the way you think.


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[Axxe55]

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In my decades of OC & CC I have avoided actual violence by just firmly stating that I was armed.

Of course, if an attacker decides to try to “call that bluff”, I’d certainly want to have a round chambered.

I’ve never actually had to “draw” & fire for a Human attacker.

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SO YOU GIVE AWAY ANY TACTICAL ADVANTAGE OF SURPRISE BY INFORMING A BAD GUYTHAT YOU ARE ARMED