Active Shooter at Robb Elementary in Uvalde

[1911'S 4 Me]

Shows what blood sucking, scum bag lawyers really are.
Even Ben Crump, the lowest of low isn't in on this lawsuit.

 

[gdr_11]

Got this in my email but I don’t do podcasts. Has anyone listened to this? If so, can you pass along the Cliff’s Notes version?

Uvalde: What Really Happened? - GMP#146

Do you really know what happened during the Uvalde school shooting at Robb Elementary? A lot of people think they do, but guest Suzi Huntington, retired police

gunsmagazine.com

 

[rotor]

I've seen on several police cars...TO PROTECT AND SERVE....

When Bill Clinton was governor he had them changed to TO PROCURE AND SERVE.

 

[toddnjoyce]

Got this in my email but I don’t do podcasts. Has anyone listened to this? If so, can you pass along the Cliff’s Notes version?

Uvalde: What Really Happened? - GMP#146

Do you really know what happened during the Uvalde school shooting at Robb Elementary? A lot of people think they do, but guest Suzi Huntington, retired police

gunsmagazine.com

Have not. No idea who the guest speaker is and she doesn’t have much of a CV.

 

[Axxe55]

Got this in my email but I don’t do podcasts. Has anyone listened to this? If so, can you pass along the Cliff’s Notes version?

Uvalde: What Really Happened? - GMP#146

Do you really know what happened during the Uvalde school shooting at Robb Elementary? A lot of people think they do, but guest Suzi Huntington, retired police

gunsmagazine.com

Listening right now.

 

[Axxe55]

Got this in my email but I don’t do podcasts. Has anyone listened to this? If so, can you pass along the Cliff’s Notes version?

Uvalde: What Really Happened? - GMP#146

Do you really know what happened during the Uvalde school shooting at Robb Elementary? A lot of people think they do, but guest Suzi Huntington, retired police

gunsmagazine.com

Some former police officer who use to write articles for a police newsletter or magazine. She is stating that the cops were not at fault or cowards, and that the school administration, and faculty were the major breakdown of why what happened, happened. She almost defends Arredondo's actions that day, in stating his mistake was, treating it as a hostage situation, rather than an active shooter situation. She spends a lot of time criticizing people who weren't there for having an opinion, while at the same time, she's putting forth HER opinion, and she wasn't there either! (Talk about the pot calling the kettle black!)

IMO, just someone spouting off and more fluff!

 

[benenglish]

16:25 to 16:55 is enough to establish her mindset.

She may be right that by the time the very first officers arrived everyone who was going to get shot was already shot.

But her notion that officer safety trumps saving people who might be able to survive if they get immediate medical help is more than a little off-putting.

Understand, she doesn't explicitly say those words but if you spend 2 minutes thinking over her saying

He shoots at them. OK. Back away! Regroup. You don't back away and then decide 'Oh, we're just going to keep sending people and see how many of us he can pop off.' Right? Is that tactically sound? No. So, you cannot call these officers cowards. They ran to the shooting. I don't believe in my heart of hearts nor in my logical thinking that they could have saved anybody in that room. I think they were already dead.

I don't care what she thinks. It takes time to bleed out. Not much time, but some. The "tactically sound" way she applauds the officer on the scene for acting was a course of action whose only purpose under those circumstances was to ensure officer safety. As a side effect, it made absolutely certain that anyone in that room who was already bleeding would die.

But at least all the officers got to go home safe that night, right? And that's what's important, right?

 

[Axxe55]

16:25 to 16:55 is enough to establish her mindset.

She may be right that by the time the very first officers arrived everyone who was going to get shot was already shot.

But her notion that officer safety trumps saving people who might be able to survive if they get immediate medical help is more than a little off-putting.

Understand, she doesn't explicitly say those words but if you spend 2 minutes thinking over her saying

I don't care what she thinks. It takes time to bleed out. Not much time, but some. The "tactically sound" way she applauds the officer on the scene for acting was a course of action whose only purpose under those circumstances was to ensure officer safety. As a side effect, it made absolutely certain that anyone in that room who was already bleeding would die.

But at least all the officers got to go home safe that night, right? And that's what's important, right?

Thanks Ben, that was pretty much my takeaway as well.

ETA: She almost sounds like she is using the Hillary Clinton's logic in the Benghazi massacre fiasco.

 

[jrbfishn]

Shots were fired after they arrived not directed at them.
That IS an active shooter situation. Not hostage.
Cowardice.

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[Axxe55]

Shots were fired after they arrived not directed at them.
That IS an active shooter situation. Not hostage.
Cowardice.

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She spends a lot of time defending the officers for being cowards.

 

[kbaxter60]

As I said, a bunch of bottom-feeders!

I thought there were laws against such behavior by lawyers in soliciting business?

Wouldn't this be an ethics violation?

Ha ha! You said "lawyer" and "ethics violation" in the same post...

Now try "ethical politician". See if your keyboard bursts into flames .

 

[Axxe55]

Ha ha! You said "lawyer" and "ethics violation" in the same post...

Now try "ethical politician". See if your keyboard bursts into flames .

Hell No. It started smoking when I wrote that previous post!

 

[deemus]

16:25 to 16:55 is enough to establish her mindset.

She may be right that by the time the very first officers arrived everyone who was going to get shot was already shot.

Not the case. Shooting went on for about 20 minutes while they decided who was in charge. Some feel that many less would have died / been injured had someone took charge and confronted the shooter instead of trying to decide who was in charge. What I was told by someone who knows.

 

[toddnjoyce]

Thanks, Ben. Glad I didn’t waste my time on it.

…She may be right that by the time the very first officers arrived everyone who was going to get shot was already shot….

That is irrelevant for a whole lot of reasons but if you think about it and accept that argument (and I originally did until the video was released) it can be accepted right up to the second round of gunfire with officers in the hallway. At that point, it’s an active shooter again and the worst case risk is the hostage taker had executed children.

I’m not a cop. What I know about hostage rescue is from .mil TTPs. It’s accepted the HRT assaulters will take casualties. That mindset is wholly incompatible with officer safety being the first priority. The second round of shooting established the bad guy controlled the scene and some weird Stockholm syndrome set in with the LEOs, especially given ballistic shields were available.

I lament the fact there was no strategic corporal that day.

 

[Axxe55]

She states the officers ran towards the gunfire, so they are not cowards. True, but they stopped and then did nothing for almost an hour.

It might be interesting to hear what she defines a coward to be.

 

[Tex929rr]

I wonder who these parents expect to collect from? I’ve said before - everyone who screwed this up and created the conditions for this is local. The shooter was a degenerate low life and local law enforcement and school staff knew about him, his degenerate mother and grandparents. The school staff failed to secure the doors and keep them in good repair, and local law enforcement failed on the big day, assisted by numerous other LEO’s. But the fault lies right there in their own town.

I sort of get why they want to blame everyone else. It’s got to hurt to look in the mirror.

 

[studenygreg]

I wonder who these parents expect to collect from? I’ve said before - everyone who screwed this up and created the conditions for this is local. The shooter was a degenerate low life and local law enforcement and school staff knew about him, his degenerate mother and grandparents. The school staff failed to secure the doors and keep them in good repair, and local law enforcement failed on the big day, assisted by numerous other LEO’s. But the fault lies right there in their own town.

I sort of get why they want to blame everyone else. It’s got to hurt to look in the mirror.

So they are suing themselves.

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[Axxe55]

I wonder who these parents expect to collect from? I’ve said before - everyone who screwed this up and created the conditions for this is local. The shooter was a degenerate low life and local law enforcement and school staff knew about him, his degenerate mother and grandparents. The school staff failed to secure the doors and keep them in good repair, and local law enforcement failed on the big day, assisted by numerous other LEO’s. But the fault lies right there in their own town.

I sort of get why they want to blame everyone else. It’s got to hurt to look in the mirror.

The gun manufacturer. Because the bottom-feeding lawyers know who has the deepest pockets! Lawyers will proclaim that Daniel Defense put a gun into the hands ofa killer!

 

[AZ Refugee]

Hindsight is 20/20

 

[cycleguy2300]

Hindsight is 20/20

Anyone with the least amount of training or common sense should have known people were dying and gone in.

It is disgusting so many, who had the training, the tools and the trust of the public to recognize the situation and to react appropriately failed to prevent so many from dying.

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