2013 HB 1862 - Legalizing Switchblade Knives.

[Bithabus]

He can't use that argument anyways, as the Texas Constitution says otherwise.

Texas chose to join the USA and so is subject to the US Constitution. Of course, the US Constitution forbids any infringement on our right to keep or bear arms.

 

[tussery]

Texas chose to join the USA and so is subject to the US Constitution. Of course, the US Constitution forbids any infringement on our right to keep or bear arms.

And nothing on the wearing of arms...

 

[Bithabus]

And nothing on the wearing of arms...

Bearing and keeping includes transportation. Or, forbidding transportation (or "wearing") of arms would significantly infringe our ability to keep or bear.

 

[txinvestigator]

And nothing on the wearing of arms...

How would one "bear" arms without wearing?

 

[Acesn8's]

How would one "bear" arms without wearing?

 

[tussery]

Now I don't want to be too much of an English dick, but bear and wear are two different words that are not even synonyms. There is a difference between bear (to be equipped or furnished with,) and wear (to carry or have on the person as covering, adornment, or protection.)

Edit: Or in simple terms a law prohibiting ownership of an arm is an infringement on your right to bear an arm, where a law prohibiting the carry of an arm is not.

A knife in your car is not on your person.

 

[txinvestigator]

Now I don't want to be too much of an English dick, but bear and wear are two different words that are not even synonyms. There is a difference between bear (to be equipped or furnished with,) and wear (to carry or have on the person as covering, adornment, or protection.)

Edit: Or in simple terms a law prohibiting ownership of an arm is an infringement on your right to bear an arm, where a law prohibiting the carry of an arm is not.

A knife in your car is not on your person.

In practical life, a distinction without a difference.

 

[Bithabus]

Edit: Or in simple terms a law prohibiting ownership of an arm is an infringement on your right to bear an arm, where a law prohibiting the carry of an arm is not.

I disagree. If you can't have it on your person you aren't bearing it.

 

[jordanmills]

They believe that they can regulate everything, unless they step on someones toes that slaps them down. In Court that is.

Really? It is the same authority they have to regulate clubs.

Or is your argument that they are all "arms" and the state has no authority over guns, knives, clubs, etc.?

They only have the authority to regulate their wearing to prevent crime.

 

[jordanmills]

They believe that they can regulate everything, unless they step on someones toes that slaps them down. In Court that is.

Really? It is the same authority they have to regulate clubs.

Or is your argument that they are all "arms" and the state has no authority over guns, knives, clubs, etc.?

Now I don't want to be too much of an English dick, but bear and wear are two different words that are not even synonyms. There is a difference between bear (to be equipped or furnished with,) and wear (to carry or have on the person as covering, adornment, or protection.)

Edit: Or in simple terms a law prohibiting ownership of an arm is an infringement on your right to bear an arm, where a law prohibiting the carry of an arm is not.

A knife in your car is not on your person.

Wear is a subset of bear. From my reading of it, the state can regulate the manner in which you wear your arm, but can't prevent you from wearing it at all. Passing a law saying you can't carry a handgun concealed, only open, seems a constitutional law. Passing a law saying you can't carry a handgun at all seems unconstitutional.

 

[TXARGUY]

Does anyone have an update on the progress of this HB?

 

[kurt]

It has been sitting since March 4th in the Criminal Jurisprudence Committee.

 

[M. Sage]

Wear is a subset of bear. From my reading of it, the state can regulate the manner in which you wear your arm, but can't prevent you from wearing it at all. Passing a law saying you can't carry a handgun concealed, only open, seems a constitutional law. Passing a law saying you can't carry a handgun at all seems unconstitutional.

Bear means carry. Add in infringe, which means to encroach, or to hinder. You're talking about a hindrance or encroachment on the bearing (carry) of arms.

 

[tussery]

Bump:
TX ALERT - Switchblade Ban Repeal Bill Moving - Critical Vote - Call AND Email TODAY!!

 

[ATX_Shawn]

Bump:
TX ALERT - Switchblade Ban Repeal Bill Moving - Critical Vote - Call AND Email TODAY!!

Im a day late and a dollar short.. what were the results?

 

[tussery]

Comte report filed with Committee Coordinator 04/19/2013

What ever that means.

 

[dreyes89]

Checking right now on openstates.org so far its in senate since the 8th. How much more to find out if it is passed into law?

 

[matefrio]

Best place for info is the source: Texas Legislature Online - 83(R) History for HB 1862

 

[matefrio]

Bill Passed House and Senate!! On to Gov. and will be effective Sept 1st 2013.

 

[TXARGUY]

Bill Passed House and Senate!! On to Gov. and will be effective Sept 1st 2013.

I'm ready!