12 g slugs

[jtriron]

What's your favorite 12 gauge slug for the HD shotgun?

 

[West Texas]

For use AS a home defense shot gun? no slugs, give me 00 or BB's. No fear of over penetration, and enough of a spread to overcome the jitters...and enough knock down power to end any further threat.

 

[jtriron]

For use AS a home defense shot gun? no slugs, give me 00 or BB's. No fear of over penetration, and enough of a spread to overcome the jitters...and enough knock down power to end any further threat.

No argument with your statement, I have 00 buckshot in the chamber.
Just thinking about if TSHTF and you needed to shoot thru something.

 

[West Texas]

No argument with your statement, I have 00 buckshot in the chamber.
Just thinking about if TSHTF and you needed to shoot thru something.

in THAT case look at these:

Ammunition To Go : 9rds - 12 Gauge Pit Bull Buckshot & Slug Dual Load Ammo [ALS1228] - $29.95

or

Ammunition To Go : 9rds - 12 Gauge Door Breaching Ammo [ALS1210DOOR] - $49.95

If you shop around you can find these cheaper, but this gives you the idea...

 

[Wolfwood]

those look nasty.

for some extra fun ideas, not to be tried at home, or anywhere else, ever. look at the wild and crazy shotgun loads thread

 

[Texas42]

For use AS a home defense shot gun? no slugs, give me 00 or BB's. No fear of over penetration, and enough of a spread to overcome the jitters...and enough knock down power to end any further threat.

00 buck will penetrate many walls.

The Box O' Truth #3 - The Shotgun Meets the Box O' Truth - Page 1

I really don't think it matters a whole lot on which slug. It depends on what you want it for. If you want to get the distance out of it, you really just got to test it in your shotty. You can probably pay an extre $3/shot and it probably would work just as good as as the $1/shot slugs you get at Academy. Its a 12 gauge slug. A big hunk of lead flying down range.

It works on Big critters, 2 legged and 4 legged.

Just from looking at some websites (mostly box of truth) different brands can have markedly different precision. . .regardless of cost in your particular shotgun. So, you could buy a box and test them. But thats really only relevent at longer ranges, anyway.

 

[West Texas]

00 buck will penetrate many walls...

True enough...00 in a low recoil round will go through an interior wall before hitting the next one and stopping...where as a slug will penetrate several walls and still keep moving...OVER penetration, I'd like for it to stop before it gets to the neighbors house across the street and in to their bedroom!

However, they might could use the excitment...

 

[jtriron]

I'd like for it to stop before it gets to the neighbors house across the street and in to their bedroom!

However, they might could use the excitment...

That's probability what my neighbors say about ME !

 

[Texan2]

these are good stuff...
G T Distributors Product Detail

I also really like these

G T Distributors Product Detail

 

[Texas1911]

Winchester just released the PDX1 in 12-ga. which is essentially a "buck and ball" round ... one slug and three small balls.

 

[Texan2]

Winchester just released the PDX1 in 12-ga. which is essentially a "buck and ball" round ... one slug and three small balls.

I want some of these...sounds impressive
http://www.winchester.com/Products/shotshell-ammunition/supreme-elite/pdx112/Pages/S12PDX1.aspx

but you would still have the overpenetration problem from the slug, wouldn't you?

 

[West Texas]

I want some of these... ...but you would still have the overpenetration problem from the slug, wouldn't you?

It would sure seem so...unless you actually HIT what you are supposed to and not the wall to the kids bedroom. Home Defense with kids or others in the house is a tough situation, things can go way bad WAY fast.

 

[Wolfwood]

+1, shot placement is key.

 

[Dcav]

How about these, they seem quite effective:
DKG Dupleks 12-Gauge Slugs

 

[Texas42]

Winchester just released the PDX1 in 12-ga. which is essentially a "buck and ball" round ... one slug and three small balls.

I guess if it worked for the redcoats

Intresting.

EDIT: A 1 oz slug is 437.5 grains. Just to put things in perspective.

 

[jtriron]

I can of course understand the fear of over penetration with slugs if you have kids
My children are very low to the ground and have 4 legs, so I am aiming mid torso with follow up at same.
And after the PD lets me go I will head to Academy to replace my Mossy 500 they confiscated.

 

[Wolfwood]

And after the PD lets me go I will head to Academy to replace my Mossy 500 they confiscated.

sad but nessecary.

and ont he plus side if you ever get the first one back, YOU HAVE 2!!!

 

[SIG_Fiend]

The unfortunate thing is there are still so many people out there that have no real experience with a shotgun, or have never actually patterned a shotgun before, and that actually believe all you have to do is point and shoot and some sort of magic "wall of lead" is going to shoot out of the gun and hit the bad guy regardless of an imprecise aim. A good quality defensive load (I like Federal Flite control wad OO or OOO buck) will be less than fist-sized in grouping at typical home defense distances 0-7yds, or maybe fist-sized or slightly larger out to ~10yds.

Hmm, I wonder what the effect would be using a breaching round as a defensive load? Most modern breaching slugs are pretty much just a frangible slug. Frangible pistol rounds are not really sufficient for defensive use IMO, however with the extra mass of a 12 gauge slug I wonder if that would make up for the lack of penetration of a frangible pistol round and possibly strike a good balance of performance and penetration? I think some hogs will have to die to test this one out.

 

[jtriron]

Let us know your findings
But wait till it cools of a bit

The unfortunate thing is there are still so many people out there that have no real experience with a shotgun, or have never actually patterned a shotgun before, and that actually believe all you have to do is point and shoot and some sort of magic "wall of lead" is going to shoot out of the gun and hit the bad guy regardless of an imprecise aim. A good quality defensive load (I like Federal Flite control wad OO or OOO buck) will be less than fist-sized in grouping at typical home defense distances 0-7yds, or maybe fist-sized or slightly larger out to ~10yds.

Hmm, I wonder what the effect would be using a breaching round as a defensive load? Most modern breaching slugs are pretty much just a frangible slug. Frangible pistol rounds are not really sufficient for defensive use IMO, however with the extra mass of a 12 gauge slug I wonder if that would make up for the lack of penetration of a frangible pistol round and possibly strike a good balance of performance and penetration? I think some hogs will have to die to test this one out.

 

[texas skeeter]

heres some patterning ive done. hope it helps... View attachment 4315 View attachment 4316 View attachment 4317