My biggest beef is with them restraining parents who were willing to make the assault.
Yeah, but if they aren't willing to go in, they shouldn't have held them back.generally you want the cops to do their job. Since like, training.
The biggest lesson to be learned from the DOJ report is that unless your agency is large enough, well funded enough, and sees complex situations often enough, there but for the grace of God goes thee.
Not sure if we’re on the same track here. From my perspective, until an agency is able it’s LEOs prove themselves in real-world operations the public should have no expectation of performance by that agency in general, nor in individual officers, specifically.This is the expected bureaucratic lesson. And the proposed solution is "we can fix this, if we throw more money at it"..
Yeah, but if they aren't willing to go in, they shouldn't have held them back.
I'm still surprised that some of the parents didn't arm up and proceed anyway....and take care of any resistance along the way.
My biggest beef is with them restraining parents who were willing to make the assault.
They knew or should have known. If shots had been fired within the last hour, possibly more, there's a chance someone is inside, bleeding out, and their life could be saved by immediately securing the scene and getting medical assistance to those who needed it.How did they know an assault was needed?
By the time parents showed up, no shots were being fired so from their perspective it was over. Until BORTAC fired a few shots an hr later and it was over.
They knew or should have known. If shots had been fired within the last hour, possibly more, there's a chance someone is inside, bleeding out, and their life could be saved by immediately securing the scene and getting medical assistance to those who needed it.
Not assaulting is just saying "I don't care if someone may be bleeding to death in there. I'm not risking my neck to find out.'
I have a problem with that attitude.
They knew or should have known. If shots had been fired within the last hour, possibly more, there's a chance someone is inside, bleeding out, and their life could be saved by immediately securing the scene and getting medical assistance to those who needed it.
Not assaulting is just saying "I don't care if someone may be bleeding to death in there. I'm not risking my neck to find out.'
I have a problem with that attitude.
I would guess the possibility of getting shot came into play.
The principle still holds. A motivated parent with a baseball bat might have saved lives. The ones that showed up knew something needed to be done right now yet on-scene LEOs were determined to make sure no one got the chance. The instinct of the parents was more competent than the training and experience of those LEOs.We are talking about parents doing an assault.
The principle still holds. A motivated parent with a baseball bat might have saved lives. The ones that showed up knew something needed to be done right now yet on-scene LEOs were determined to make sure no one got the chance. The instinct of the parents was more competent than the training and experience of those LEOs.
The principle still holds. A motivated parent with a baseball bat might have saved lives.
I don't know, and maybe it's just me, but I can't imagine just standing by while children are being slaughtered.I would guess the possibility of getting shot came into play.
Apparently they were running on instinct.I was not asking him about principle but mindset - "How did they know an assault was needed?"
If that were the case, no parents would have been restrained from entering by LEOs. That happened, didn't it?All indications when parents arrived were it was over.