Some officials say putin has moved to Valdai (between Moscow and St Petersburg) while Peskov (press sec) says putin is still working at the Kremlin.
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Putler's personal plane has left Moscow and likely heading to Tver where he has a home....which means he's not at either place, he's holed up on one of his dachas waiting for the smoke to clear and hoping he can come out looking like a conquering hero.
This is getting very...interesting. Putin's grasp seems to be slipping but Perrgozhin doesn't strike me as the type to be capable of running a country or of surrounding himself with people who can. Lots of instability coming, which is kind of scary considering Russia's nuclear arsenal. Even if it's poorly maintained and mostly decrepit, those warheads are still full of radioactive materials that would fetch a hefty price from some countries and organizations. If this turns into an unstable 'every man for himself" cluster, there's going to be a lot more to worry about in the world.
Is this the work of the CIA ?
You know Putin is in church praying the coup away. Being the devout corruptian he is....which means he's not at either place, he's holed up on one of his dachas waiting for the smoke to clear and hoping he can come out looking like a conquering hero.
This is getting very...interesting. Putin's grasp seems to be slipping but Perrgozhin doesn't strike me as the type to be capable of running a country or of surrounding himself with people who can. Lots of instability coming, which is kind of scary considering Russia's nuclear arsenal. Even if it's poorly maintained and mostly decrepit, those warheads are still full of radioactive materials that would fetch a hefty price from some countries and organizations. If this turns into an unstable 'every man for himself" cluster, there's going to be a lot more to worry about in the world.
They wish.Is this the work of the CIA ?
You know Putin is in church praying the coup away. Being the devout corruptian he is.
Seriously it should be an interesting 24 hours. Either putin has the control and forces to stop a long military colum heading to Moscow or ?
No.Is this the work of the CIA ?
List of losses from Oryx (OSINT) Wagner has lost one UAZ (kinda like a humvee)
One factor nobody's mentioned...all the Russian crime organizations. Putin has effectively been the "godfather" since not long after he took power. Where will they fall in all of this?
If Prigozhin is as anti-corruption as he claims, (he could just be anti-military corruption) he won't have many friends there, but many of the mafia have their power and ability to work solely because they are protected.Excuse you, I've been banging on about this the entire time, to wit, that in Russia, government, organized crime and business are one and the same.
Jeep, humvee, nissan...More like a Nissan Frontier:
Excuse you, I've been banging on about this the entire time, to wit, that in Russia, government, organized crime and business are one and the same.
Because I'm too busy laughing my ass off right about now.What happens if the Boss of Bosses survives the attempt? Now he's shown more weakness - does the next attempt come from within the mafia? Do they rally around him since things have been good for them these past couple of decades? Do they decide they're no longer beholden to him and start jockeying for more power?
I haven't seen you raising these questions.
Because I'm too busy laughing my ass off right about now.
As the Good Book says: if you aim for the king, you best not miss. And what does typically happen if the capo di capo gets removed? Everybody calmly sits it out, or everyone is trying to scramble for a larger bit of the cake?
Like I said somewhere on pg 4 of this thread, when this is all over, there's gonna be two Russian city states, Greater Moscow and Nishni Novgorod, and everybody else in the area of the former RSFR will revert to tribal warfare. Maybe the Mongols and the Ottomans will want to make moves too.