Yep, a well-dressed, opportunistic sleazebag.LaPierre is disgusting !
Yep, a well-dressed, opportunistic sleazebag.LaPierre is disgusting !
Not a problem if you find it. Now, if the ATF finds it.......What I need to know is if I found a bumpstock in my closet, which I thought I had destroyed. Would I be in the clear?
Asking for a friend or a friend of course...
No, SCOTUS will not uphold this ruling. The ATF is not appealing. They're looking for a better case (better for them, of course) to take to SCOTUS. In the near term, this is a huge delaying tactic.And the bumpstock issue will have to go to SCOTUS. I suspect SCOTUS will uphold the Fifth Circuit's ruling.
I believe it will go to SCOTUS. Those who lost in the other circuits (which denied bumpstocks) will appeal. The ATF would have to drop the rule to avoid going to SCOTUS.No, SCOTUS will not uphold this ruling. The ATF is not appealing. They're looking for a better case (better for them, of course) to take to SCOTUS. In the near term, this is a huge delaying tactic.
In the long term, it means getting this finally sorted will take a long damn time.
For now, only residents of Texas, Louisiana, and Mississippi benefit from the decision. The benefit is pretty illusory, though. I certainly wouldn't want to be the first person to show up at the range with my bumpstock...that I 3D printed from design files gotten from the internet. Of course.
Those who lost in the other circuits have already appealed to SCOTUS and been denied.I believe it will go to SCOTUS. Those who lost in the other circuits (which denied bumpstocks) will appeal. The ATF would have to drop the rule to avoid going to SCOTUS.
Agree it will be a long time in reaching resolution.Those who lost in the other circuits have already appealed to SCOTUS and been denied.
Besides, the losses in other circuits weren't incompatible with the legal questions in the Fifth Circuit. The losses in the other circuits were based on different issues (takings and reasonableness, IIRC) so there's no conflict between circuits. Until there is, I think SCOTUS will stay hands-off.
Fifth Circuit decided in Cargill that ATF couldn't run roughshod over established administrative procedure to create new felonies; only Congress can do that. Stated another way, Congress writes the United States Code and agencies write the Code of Federal Regulations in accordance with the US Code. The ATF has created a situation where the CFR disagrees with the USC. That's not supposed to happen.
On that basis, the Fifth Circuit reversed the lower court ruling. No other court has addressed that question in that way. If the ATF doesn't appeal, the whole thing drops out of sight until another circuit disagrees with the Fifth or Congress passes legislation to change the wording of the NFA to somehow include bumpstocks.
I'm sure another circuit will eventually disagree and SCOTUS will finally hear arguments about bumpstocks. It's just going to take a long time to start another case based on Cargill that will lose all the way through another circuit. Then we'll have a disagreement between circuits that SCOTUS should address.
The bumpstock ban was ~5 years ago. It will take years more to reach a final resolution.
I guess I'm just seeing this as a glass half-empty situation. I'll take it but I'm not close to being ready to celebrate.
I never cared for it, never owned one, never wanted one, but I damn sure want one now that Trump told me I can’t have one.I never missed the contraption and didn't care for it when it was first introduced. I can't be the only one here. Or??????.
Your opinion is irrelevant. The issue is that the government agency did not apply the law; they 'made' law, which is not their role.I never missed the contraption and didn't care for it when it was first introduced. I can't be the only one here. Or??????.
Not any more irrelevant than your backlash of a comment. Thanks for playing.Your opinion is irrelevant. The issue is that the government agency did not apply the law; they 'made' law, which is not their role.
I never missed the contraption and didn't care for it when it was first introduced. I can't be the only one here. Or??????.