Reloading Accident

[Axxe55]

I think there is more to this story than is being told at this time.

 

[Sam7sf]

You see Oregonians are on the line. I have some pretty strong retarded tendencies. It’s in our genetics. Utah...little fact about folks from Utah: A lot of inbreeding going on. No seriously. Optometrist found this out because they couldn’t understand why glasses ordered often don’t fit. Their eyes are more apart than normal. This is caused from inbreeding. If you see someone from Utah like this don’t ask them questions. It’s not worth your time. Then Florida! Good old Florida! Anytime I see an article that starts with “A Florida man” ohhh here we go.

I agree there’s more to this story...Maybe. He’s a Florida man.

 

[baboon]

There’s a reason why people are limited to how much black powder is safe to keep on hand!

 

[Tnhawk]

He's going it wrong...

Must have got his instructions on the internet!

 

[gll]

New restrictions on the purchase, storing, and use of reloading supplies to follow...

 

[ronbwolf]

Years ago, I went to work at an indoor range that had just changed hands. The new owner did not want to handle reloading supplies, so he threw out a whole bunch of supplies, and a 4'x2'x 3' metal and concrete "magazine," that they had kept powder in. Try as I might, I could not get the damn thing liaded into a pickup. Stories like this make me regret that. On the other hand, unless he was loading black powder loads, I can not see this story holding up. As for the above "Unique" story, well it's a story. See the below:

Smokeless Powder and The Fire Service - SAAMI

This video emphasizes in the storage and display of smokeless powder in the retail environment and demonstrates that if appropriately packaged, smokeless powder will not explode and is less dangerous during fires than many other common retail materials. It addresses what the fire hazards are to...

saami.org

As you can see in the video, even 13-8 pound canisters of Titewad, in a fire, does not explode. So for this guys story, I say BS!

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[Maverick44]

Over the years y’all have heard me speak of “The Village Idiot”. After knowing me a good 5 years he asked about getting into reloading for his hunting rifle. He bought died and a shell houlder for his 30/06 and I told him I had powder & primers.

He shows up with a suitcase of Bud knowing I refuse to ever drink Bud (still to this day)! I tell him he can’t be getting phuced up and reloading, not on my equipment in my place. Being The Village Idiot he has a beer to settle his shakes! We sit down and I teach him how to set up the resizing die and leave him to it.

I always clean the primer pockets on my brass. Instead of tapping them out he insisted on blowing them out. Be cause I say no to drinking beer he decides he needs to smoke! No smoking at the bench or in the reloading room!

He’s Jonesing for a beer & smoke! We go outside & smoke while having another beer. Back inside I set up the powder charger show him how it works then let him charge cases. At the time he was still married and his son was just starting to walk. So I would go back and forth between him & our wives with his kid. When I go back he has powder spilt every where! Over charged cases and start freaking out when I tell him he phucing up!

His first range trip most of his rounds won’t fire. His blowing out the primer pocket may have included spit! One round that does fire seizes up his bolt. Knowing I didn’t let him over charge any cases I finally beat his bolt open. The barrel looked as if he had a boating accident! The nicked out case was scratched all to hell! You wouldn’t believe “his clean gun”! There actually was a pile of sand after running a can of WD40 down the barrel!

He gave up on reloading because I was to bitchy about how he did it! I think I still have his dies. He eventually bought a Dillon 350. He wouldn’t take my advice on how to build a bench. He asked if I’d come over and check it out and help set up the Dillon. His bench was straight up Homer Simpson constructed! The screws he chose looked like the assorted ones from the grocery store. Bent screws not driving in and broken heads dominated his build. His cheap hollow interior door was more criticism then he could handle.

He was a Florida man! He died before the Dillon ever got set up! I thought about buying it, but knew he phuced up his sons credit buying a few guns & suppressors.

There's just some people that really shouldn't be trusted with anything sharper than a butter knife. Some can't even be trusted with that...

 

[baboon]

I guess no one here has ever heard of indoor ranges having flash fires when the unburnt powder builds up on the floor ignites?

 

[contender buff]

Something smells, to much damage for 6 pounds of smokeless powder.

 

[jrbfishn]

There's definitely more to the story. 6lb of smokeless is not going to do that kind of destruction on it's own. Black powder might.

Watched a show where a rocket scientist put 5 pounds of black powder in a bowl in a porta potti and set it off.
Didn't do anywhere near that kind of damage. Has to be contained to explode like that.
Smokeless powder is a flammable solid. But, either type powder might do that but it is doubtful unless it was contained under enough pressure.


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[SQLGeek]

Dude was cooking meth.

 

[ronbwolf]

I guess no one here has ever heard of indoor ranges having flash fires when the unburnt powder builds up on the floor ignites?

As you can see in the video, it DID NOT explode, it burned, big difference.

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[baboon]

As you can see in the video, it DID NOT explode, it burned, big difference.

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True it did burn and I would say it burned pretty hot. Now say a guy had powder contained in say 40 mm ammo cans what do you think would happen? We all know ammo cooks off. Would a hot fire & small explosion off say black powder rupture & ignite a gas pipe? Ever seen a house explode from a natural gas leak?

 

[Axxe55]

The few pictures I saw, that house looked like there was an explosion, not a fire.

 

[cycleguy2300]

"At least 6 pounds"
It could have been a lot more and many explosives can self-contain in large quantities.

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[Dawico]

True it did burn and I would say it burned pretty hot. Now say a guy had powder contained in say 40 mm ammo cans what do you think would happen? We all know ammo cooks off. Would a hot fire & small explosion off say black powder rupture & ignite a gas pipe? Ever seen a house explode from a natural gas leak?

Nothing you mentioned here would cause an explosion like that.

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[rotor]

Put 10 grains in a shell where the maximum is 5 grains and see what happens. 10 grains is only .02 ounces. Smokeless powder ignites when not contained but explodes when contained. Would not think that a plastic powder container would be enough containment for an explosion but who knows.

 

[baboon]

Nothing you mentioned here would cause an explosion like that.

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House down the street from me in Houston exploded from a gas leak!

 

[Axxe55]

Put 10 grains in a shell where the maximum is 5 grains and see what happens. 10 grains is only .02 ounces. Smokeless powder ignites when not contained but explodes when contained. Would not think that a plastic powder container would be enough containment for an explosion but who knows.

Smokeless powder doesn't explode when contained. It builds pressure when contained, hence the reason the reason that different types and brands of powders have different burn rates. Because they build pressure at different rates.

 

[jrbfishn]

True it did burn and I would say it burned pretty hot. Now say a guy had powder contained in say 40 mm ammo cans what do you think would happen? We all know ammo cooks off. Would a hot fire & small explosion off say black powder rupture & ignite a gas pipe? Ever seen a house explode from a natural gas leak?

Nothing you mentioned here would cause an explosion like that.

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Have to agree with Dawico on that.
I have seen video of a large ammo storage on fire and "cooking off". Firemen less than 10 feet away were not harmed.
A gas line rupturing during a fire would have to have a low enough pressure to allow a back burn to a major line to blow up that big.

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