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    I have a lot of ammo, because I stopped shooting when shit started getting hairy. I had planned on getting into reloading, and then COVID + domestic communists happened. Not sure what to do now cause primers aren't coming back at a decent price either. Just not planning on buying lots of ammo at these outrageous prices.
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    I have a lot of ammo, because I stopped shooting when shit started getting hairy. I had planned on getting into reloading, and then COVID + domestic communists happened. Not sure what to do now cause primers aren't coming back at a decent price either. Just not planning on buying lots of ammo at these outrageous prices.
    Buy what you can now in reloading supplies. Save your brass, clean your brass, buy dies,press, etc. As things come back add supplies, so they sit on the shelf, lots you can start with now. I have dies and supplies for guns I don’t own yet.
     

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    I thought the same thing. Ramping up production to meet increased demand is slow no matter what is being produced.

    I honestly see this whole thing as nothing more than a back door gun and ammo grab than punishment for a murder.
    I'm waiting on the supreme court case coming in November. It could bury many of the gun laws we have today.
     

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    Seems at least a few of you, if not several, believe that some other countries in Eastern Europe will take up the slack, so to speak, and start producing more ammo to fill the void that will be created by the lack of Russian ammo coming into the US. I beg to differ but hope I am wrong. The thing is, if that is supposedly going to become the case, then why haven't the ammo manufacturers in those same countries been doing likewise for the last year and a half or so to make up for the ammo shortage that has been upon us for that long already! If they could not ramp up production to abate or completely nullify that shortage, what makes you think they will be able to do it come September when the ban on importation of Russian goes into effect?


    Sellier and Bellot is Czech and has been selling a lot in the US market for years. Turkey and Romania and others have industrial base in small arms ammo too. No one is going to build new factories, but the reason they haven't been players is because you could get all the cheap ComBloc ammo from Russia. With the ridiculous prices recently and the Russia embargo, an enterprising importer could probably go East and make some deals. There are a lot of hoops and licensing to go through for establishing new small arms import contracts, but if ammo prices stay where they are, there's money to be made, particularly in the civilian market.
     

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    Sellier and Bellot is Czech and has been selling a lot in the US market for years. Turkey and Romania and others have industrial base in small arms ammo too. No one is going to build new factories, but the reason they haven't been players is because you could get all the cheap ComBloc ammo from Russia. With the ridiculous prices recently and the Russia embargo, an enterprising importer could probably go East and make some deals. There are a lot of hoops and licensing to go through for establishing new small arms import contracts, but if ammo prices stay where they are, there's money to be made, particularly in the civilian market.
    As I indicated though, ammo mnaufacturers from Europe, like Sellier & Bellot, have not taken up the slack for the current shortage when it came to decent ammo so why think they will for crap steel cased ammo. They like manufactuers here are probably already at their production limit. In fact their ammo is has been as hard to get or even more difficult than ammo made here. I wish they would step it up though, they make great ammo that is hotter than most US ammo (at least for practice rounds).
     

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    The days of cheap anything are over. I’m becoming desensitized by our leaders and the firearms industry. What I can say though is 7.62x39 and 7.62x54r will not die. Pmc, hornady, sb, Fiocchi, all produce ammo better than steel case. I for one would rather buy American made ammo. Even if I’m spending fifty cents a round or a dollar fifty for “premium” ammo.

    I remember during the Clinton ban picking up a thousand rounds for 60 bucks. That ol Wolf ammo was alright stuff compared to the dog crap from Tula. We get Tula and get charged current value for lesser quality. As much as this situation sucks I’m going to think positive and hope domestic supply lines get established. More jobs for people, too.

    The industry is too big to not have someone step up. Someone will. I’m gonna be buying brass 7.62x39. I ain’t gonna flip out over this and I hope y’all are smart enough to not treat steel cased ammo like some kind of collectible. Value in ammo is not sitting on a shelf. It’s being used...and from what we can tell...might be someday used on blue helmets or Taliban invading us.
     

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    Not nearly as much as I thought it was going to. Which is nice.
    it’s still early and there is still ammo in the warehouse to ship out. There is also some panic buying going on now, and I’m sure the usual asshats will try to milk this for a profit, but what happens when 20-30 odd percent of the ammo dries up and is no longer being imported? Wolf, Tula, Golden Tiger, just to name a few, have that much market share.

    I ran into Academy last night (Sunday) just to see if they still had 7.62 of any kind. Obviously my results are skewed since the store I go to gets shipments Monday, Wednesday, and Friday.

    However, in a store where over the last two months I could go in on any day of the week and pick up just about anything, the shelves were almost bare save for boxes of shotgun shells And a few odd boxes of handgun ammo.

    Are we going to slide back to the days of everything being gone by noon? Who knows? But I expect the prices will continue to go up. While U.S. manufacturers continue to pump out ammo, loosing a chunk of the market as big as what Russia puts out will not keep help to keep pressure on Federal/Speer/Winchester/etc. to lower prices.

    I sure hope I’m wrong, but I also didn’t believe it would happen in 2020. I’m a bit more pragmatic now. ‍
     
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    it’s still early and there is still ammo in the warehouse to ship out. There is also some panic buying going on now, and I’m sure the usual asshats will try to milk this for a profit, but what happens when 20-30 odd percent of the ammo dries up and is no longer being imported? Wolf, Tula, Golden Tiger, just to name a few, have that much market share.

    I ran into Academy last night (Sunday) just to see if they still had 7.62 of any kind. Obviously my results are skewed since the store I go to gets shipments Monday, Wednesday, and Friday.

    However, in a store where over the last two months I could go in on any day of the week and pick up just about anything, the shelves were almost bare save for boxes of shotgun shells And a few odd boxes of handgun ammo.

    Are we going to slide back to the days of everything being gone by noon? Who knows? But I expect the prices will continue to go up. While U.S. manufacturers continue to pump out ammo, loosing a chunk of the market as big as what Russia puts out will not keep help to keep pressure on Federal/Speer/Winchester/etc. to lower prices.

    I sure hope I’m wrong, but I also didn’t believe it would happen in 2020. I’m a bit more pragmatic now. ‍

    Wolf is made in california.
     

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    I saw this yesterday but been so busy to respond to something I knew nothing about (Russian ammo). I asked around today and a few folks said they make the steel casing ammo that can't be imported any longer and weren't sure about any brass. This is where I ask you all about the truth of that...
     

    Darkpriest667

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    You are right in that California is a commie country but I believe Wolf is made in Russia.



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