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it says pursuant to 30.06 and in 30.06 the size language ect is clearly defined. So if they offer an incorrect sign it does not fit 30.06 so is invalid as a warning
I do not understand. Can you explain?
it says pursuant to 30.06 and in 30.06 the size language ect is clearly defined. So if they offer an incorrect sign it does not fit 30.06 so is invalid as a warning
Here is the actual language of the statute.
"(3) "Written communication" means:(A) a card or other document on which is written language identical to the following: "Pursuant to Section 30.06, Penal Code (trespass by license holder with a concealed handgun), a person licensed under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code (handgun licensing law), may not enter this property with a concealed handgun";
or
(B) a sign posted on the property that:
(i) includes the language described by Paragraph (A) in both English and Spanish;
(ii) appears in contrasting colors with block letters at least one inch in height; and
(iii) is displayed in a conspicuous manner clearly visible to the public."
To me, that word "or" completely negates the requirements of subsection B. In other words, someone can post "a card or other document" with the language from subsection A, orrrrrrr they can post a sign that follows subsection B.
Incorrecly posted 30.06 signs are our friends - please don't mention those to folks or they will correct them.
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True, but until they ask you would be leagally carrying, no?
Yes.
Now we're getting I to the splitting hairs part.
What about your experiences?
I dont have a problem. If they post any kind of info saying they do not want me to be able to defend myself I do not go in and give them my money. I could care less if its just a gunbuster sign. Its there property its there bushiness model who am I to tell someone how they should run the thing that pays there bills.
You are correct, according to state law. San Antonio has a city ordinance that contradicts state law, which I was cited under.I don't believe they can ban carry in city parks.
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So wouldn't state law override? Kinda like the rifle open carry stuff? Or am I wrong about the rifle open carry law?You are correct, according to state law. San Antonio has a city ordinance that contradicts state law, which I was cited under.
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You are correct, state law supercedes local ordinances. This was my basis for my pretrial motions for dismissal, which were ignored by the judge. He instead dismissed on lack of witness recommendation by the prosecution.So wouldn't state law override? Kinda like the rifle open carry stuff? Or am I wrong about the rifle open carry law?
Card or other document - business card/pamphlet/etc. that they hand to you - that you should read. It could be a program/brochure that has this language on it. But if it is a sign, for it to be legal, it must meet the height, spanish, colors, and conspicuous display requirements.
I agree that they should have to remove them, but keeping them on the books gives the cops an excuse to violate the law. All they have to say is that they didn't know the city ordinance was not enforceable. Cops are not legal experts, so no one really expects them to know the laws outside of money making violations.I believe during Abbots time as AG he warned them that prosecuting anyone under their ordinances would land them in hot water.
Don't know why they aren't being required to remove them.
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I go where there ain't no friggin signs. They ain't getting my business.
I expect every cop to know the law. How can you enforce it if you don't know what it is? Most of cops I know in this area have a book size copy of the Penal Code in their car most of the time. If not, at the PD there is one available for writing reports. Although sometimes, they want to pretend they don't know.
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London & All,
London, you are 100% CORRECT. = IF the SCOTUS actually understood The Constitution, they would issue a court order to end attacks on the 2nd Amendment everywhere once & for all.
(Such a court order wouldn't take a SC clerk over an hour to draft.)
And to All: San Antonio seems to be trying to become "Austin South".
That said, I know a lot of LEO in Bexar County & none of them seem to care or be concerned about CC or OC. = It's the !@#$!@# politicians here that are the problem.
(The more that I learn about politicians, the better that I like roaches, scorpions, worms, venomous spiders & pit vipers.)
yours, satx