What do you not like about ranges you've been to?
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Guess I just wouldn't be going there, lol....
Fireaustin
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- Jun 9, 2013
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Our original projected opening date was going to be October 1. Unfortunately, we are in the ETJ of the city of San Marcos. Their Planning Department has decided that they are going to require certain paperwork to be filed and approved before we can continue construction. This is not going to keep us from opening, just delay it a bit. Hopefully we can have it done by mid November now.
Several of you have complained about certain range rules. After talking with a few different ranges, the rules have to be generally set for the least experienced shooter. I have participated in a few 3 gun competitions and can double/triple tap accurately. A brand new shooter can't make that guarantee and after seeing one of y'all that can, will want to do it too.
After we have been open for a while, we will start drawing plans on Tac bays. Holster work will be authorized in these areas, as long as the 180 rule is followed.
I can't set any definite time line on any of our expansion though, until we see how much y'all like us.
Several of you have complained about certain range rules. After talking with a few different ranges, the rules have to be generally set for the least experienced shooter. I have participated in a few 3 gun competitions and can double/triple tap accurately. A brand new shooter can't make that guarantee and after seeing one of y'all that can, will want to do it too.
After we have been open for a while, we will start drawing plans on Tac bays. Holster work will be authorized in these areas, as long as the 180 rule is followed.
I can't set any definite time line on any of our expansion though, until we see how much y'all like us.
ROGER4314
Been Called "Flash" Since I Was A Kid!
I detest Range Nazis! I am a member at two private clubs and have been a member of three others over the years. I believe it's possible to ensure safety and get the point across that rules are to be followed without being a jerk about it.
Our clubs require ARO's to be on duty at all times. The first member on site is the ARO unless he passes it to another member. When I am ARO, I stay civil, polite and respectful. I also consider the needs of others. For instance, when calling a cease fire, I check with the shooters to see what their needs are and advise them that a cease fire is coming.
When I announce the cease fire, I do it this way: I tell the shooters what we're going to do, ask that any remaining rounds in the firearm be shot but ask that they not reload. I do NOT make them unload a firearm. We wait until all rounds are fired. Actions open, firearms and magazines are down and we cease fire. What's with calling a cease fire and making a guy unload his firearm? I believe that is far more dangerous. Fire the rounds, clear the piece, lay it down open and empty then step back. When all shooters are safe, we call the cease fire.
That is showing courtesy and sharing mutual respect with your fellow shooters. I can be firm and had to do that sometimes but in normal operation, courtesy is the rule.
In any business, if they bark at me, I tell them to shove it and head out. I simply won't tolerate rude behavior.
Flash
Our clubs require ARO's to be on duty at all times. The first member on site is the ARO unless he passes it to another member. When I am ARO, I stay civil, polite and respectful. I also consider the needs of others. For instance, when calling a cease fire, I check with the shooters to see what their needs are and advise them that a cease fire is coming.
When I announce the cease fire, I do it this way: I tell the shooters what we're going to do, ask that any remaining rounds in the firearm be shot but ask that they not reload. I do NOT make them unload a firearm. We wait until all rounds are fired. Actions open, firearms and magazines are down and we cease fire. What's with calling a cease fire and making a guy unload his firearm? I believe that is far more dangerous. Fire the rounds, clear the piece, lay it down open and empty then step back. When all shooters are safe, we call the cease fire.
That is showing courtesy and sharing mutual respect with your fellow shooters. I can be firm and had to do that sometimes but in normal operation, courtesy is the rule.
In any business, if they bark at me, I tell them to shove it and head out. I simply won't tolerate rude behavior.
Flash
rushthezeppelin
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Barging into someone else's range thread to advertise your range is pretty rude and I'm sure against forum advertising rules.
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That was certainly a great example of how NOT to establish your business on a site that is not yours. That is like walking into a person's place of business, and using a megaphone to loudly proclaim that all of the customers there should check out your business. Incredibly rude. I can understand it happening once, as some people are not used to the internet. Ten times? Yeah, you're done here buddy.
This is a great thread. Glad to see a business owner trying to make his customers happt before he even has any!
My biggest gripe: No rapidfire with handguns.
I don't shoot to make a single, pretty hole in a target; I go to practice self-defense style shooting. While I realize this would be much better done on a training course meant for this; I don't have $1,000 and vacation time to make that happen for only three days out of the year. The range gives me a good; cheap place to legally and frequently launch lead.
Unfortunately most have rules against rapid-fire with handguns; although I can't understand why. Rifles, sure, but not pistols.
My biggest gripe: No rapidfire with handguns.
I don't shoot to make a single, pretty hole in a target; I go to practice self-defense style shooting. While I realize this would be much better done on a training course meant for this; I don't have $1,000 and vacation time to make that happen for only three days out of the year. The range gives me a good; cheap place to legally and frequently launch lead.
Unfortunately most have rules against rapid-fire with handguns; although I can't understand why. Rifles, sure, but not pistols.
Another one: If you rent out pistols, keep them impeccably clean and functioning. I used to rent a SW 629 in CA. It cost $20 plus I had to buy their ammo which was $25. Throw in range and target fees and you're looking at $55 for the experience.
The damn thing had a loose cylinder that needed to be lock-tited. It would back itself up to the point you couldn't pull the trigger and even had a hard time swinging it open. When I brought it to the attention of the manager his reply was, "Oh, yeah. It's been doing that for a while now."
The damn thing had a loose cylinder that needed to be lock-tited. It would back itself up to the point you couldn't pull the trigger and even had a hard time swinging it open. When I brought it to the attention of the manager his reply was, "Oh, yeah. It's been doing that for a while now."
I like clean and simple. Ranges that are trying to hard to be "BIG" or really fancy kind of turn me off, but I do like clean and organized. I come from Georgia so just about every range charges by the hour, which is why I was glad to find a place here in Dallas that charge a flat rate for the day with allowing you to "check out" if you need to go do something or want to get something to eat then come back to check back in then get right back onto the range.
Oh and I understand that different ranges have rules to protect their property like their backstops but my "dream" range would allow all kinds of ammo including all kinds of shotgun rounds (some ranges allow buckshot while some don't, then some allow slugs while some don't, and some don't allow any shotguns).
The indoor range I go to has a daily rate, but if the range gets too busy they will request a long-term customer to sit out for a while to let someone else shoot; they are then permitted to resume after a decent time.
For indoor ranges: Lighting and ventilation are the most important to me. I don't have much experience with outdoor ranges since I usually shoot at a members only range. The problem there is that the rules are set for bench rest shooters and can be a little annoying for the rest of us. Just a side note; hubby and I were shooting at the club, we called for cease fire set up our targets made the range hot and as we were getting ready to shoot again hubby looked up and some of the old heads were walking out on the the range! They are the ones who set the rules and they acknowledged the hot range call!
If you are doing an indoor range, PLEASE invest in some bad@$$ sound deadening. There is an indoor range that I LOVE...or would love, except that even with 2 layers of protection on, it's still painfully loud.
Loud enough to blow out my Howard Leight electronic muffs.....
Loud enough to blow out my Howard Leight electronic muffs.....
All your planned features sound great. Your hours, though, are puzzling for the Tues to Fri days.
If I'm not mistaking, dark in central Texas from November to January hits right about 5:30 PM, give or take some change. Is your range going to be lighted, or are you just going to have Sat-Sun open during that time?
That may strike some as a stupid question, and maybe I have just never been to a lighted range to think lights at night would be normal. I've never been to a range having lights at night. I usually shoot on private land - or the unkept-up range near my home for reloading work..but it has no lights.
HKaltwasser
Well-Known
Too dark on the inside range. Coudn't see very well. An uneducated range officer claiming I had a Class 3 firearm and to show him my papers. I had to educate him on the laws. All for a fake can on a 16" barrel , I just leave it off becaue I went back again and I had to unscrew it to prove it. The sad thing was it had a very obvious LOUD boom when firing. No sound suppression what so ever.
No long ranges 100 yard +.
No long ranges 100 yard +.
