Open Carry march with "Come and Take It-Austin chapter" at SXSW

[Das Jared]

When will we learn that "in-your-face" open carry marches and parades add no value to our gun rights agenda. Just sayin....oh I support the 2nd amendment, I just don't know where "bear arms" = open carry. Am I not "bearing arms" when I conceal - carry? Just sayin......

Ok you "purists"...fire away.

Just. Stop. Posting.

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[London]

Was listening to KLBJ today and on one of the hourly news promos they took a swipe at one of the attendees of the march. He was stating about how he is exercising his rights under the Constitution and they nitpicked that he was dumb because it's the Bill of Rights (which of course came later down the line) that guarantees these rights. Can't tell you how many times one of their pundits has reffered to the Bill of Rights as the Constitution. Hell the SCOTUS determines Constitutionality of laws based on the Bill of Rights.

I guess they're unfamiliar with the definition of the word "Amendment?" From Wikipedia:

An amendment is a formal or official change made to a law, contract, constitution, or other legal document. It is based on the verb to amend, which means to change.

The Bill of Rights is the collective name for the first ten amendments to the United States Constitution.

 

[Odiferous]

Beating a dead horse here...but "to bear" means to openly carry or display...concealed carry isn't necessarily "bearing."

Consider "bearing witness" in a court - do you openly state your case, or keep it to yourself?

"Do you wear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God?"

"Sure, but I'll just think it so that nobody gets scared."

 

[breakingcontact]

Beating a dead horse here...but "to bear" means to openly carry or display...concealed carry isn't necessarily "bearing."

Consider "bearing witness" in a court - do you openly state your case, or keep it to yourself?

"Do you wear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God?"

"Sure, but I'll just think it so that nobody gets scared."

Logic.

 

[DubiousDan]

Really? Says who? You? Me? All I am saying is CC satisfies bearing arms. I do support getting rid of most if not all of CC restrictions as to where we can CC.

Except that CC requires permission from the government. Hardly equals bearing arms as per the 2nd Amendment.

 

[matefrio]

AUSTIN, Tex. — Two people were killed and at least 23 others were injured early Thursday at the South by Southwest festival when a driver evading arrest slammed his car into vehicles, a bicyclist, and pedestrians walking along crowded streets, the police said.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/14/us/car-slams-into-crowd-at-sxsw-festival.html

 

[Mreed911]

Fleeing felon who's now eligible for the death penalty and will never see the outside of a prison again.

 

[MPA1988]

Beating a dead horse here...but "to bear" means to openly carry or display...concealed carry isn't necessarily "bearing."

Solely your opinion as my opinion is that CC satisfies "bearing". I do support OC for CHL.

 

[Mreed911]

Solely your opinion as my opinion is that CC satisfies "bearing". I do support OC for CHL.

But both only at the permission of the government, right?

 

[breakingcontact]

Solely your opinion as my opinion is that CC satisfies "bearing". I do support OC for CHL.

You do not support open carry for concealed handgun licensees? Got it.

 

[MPA1988]

But both only at the permission of the government, right?

Yes.

Is the gov't enfringing upon my right to "bear" arms? Yes, but not within the context most gun "nuts" think of. I believe the gov't's enfringement upon my gun rights is restricting "where" I can CC. Does this help you?

 

[Das Jared]

Fyi, guys, the report posts function is quite effective. Just put troll in the description.

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[breakingcontact]

Fyi, guys, the report posts function is quite effective. Just put troll in the description.

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I have disagreed with you. I think those who hold different beliefs should be welcome here so long as they are civil in their challenges. I disagreed with you until he said "gun nuts".

 

[Das Jared]

I have disagreed with you. I think those who hold different beliefs should be welcome here so long as they are civil in their challenges. I disagreed with you until he said "gun nuts".

There is a difference between disagreement and being a liberal troll, who does nothing more than try to piss off members here.

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[breakingcontact]

Yes.

Is the gov't enfringing upon my right to "bear" arms? Yes, but not within the context most gun "nuts" think of. I believe the gov't's enfringement upon my gun rights is restricting "where" I can CC. Does this help you?

Gun nuts? The anti gunners would say anyone who carries a gun in any manner is a gun nut. I dont walk around downtown Austin with an AR but how does that make them gun nuts? In some ways I feel guilty as if I enjoy so many gun rights because there are people out there openly exercising their rights and reminding us that if we dont exercise the rights we will lose them.

 

[MPA1988]

Gun nuts? The anti gunners would say anyone who carries a gun in any manner is a gun nut. I dont walk around downtown Austin with an AR but how does that make them gun nuts? In some ways I feel guilty as if I enjoy so many gun rights because there are people out there openly exercising their rights and reminding us that if we dont exercise the rights we will lose them.

Allow me to clarify what I mean by gun "nuts". Those who think gun rights begin and end with Open Carry.

Hopefully that helps. If not, so be it.

 

[Younggun]

Who said they begin and end with open carry? I have not found one person who thinks open carry is the beginning OR the end of gun rights, it's simply one facet.

I can't stand these people who say they support the second amendment then go on to say how many things should not be allowed or how many restrictions should be in place.


Just out of curiosity, what exactly do the words "A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and beat arms shall not be infringed" mean to you?

How much authority does that statement give the government in the regulation of arms?

What arms does this include?


I think it's only fair to know exactly where you stand on the most basic level of this issue.

 

[breakingcontact]

Allow me to clarify what I mean by gun "nuts". Those who think gun rights begin and end with Open Carry.

Hopefully that helps. If not, so be it.

Calling people nuts? Which side are you on? If you believe in a different level of restriction why cant you do that civilly.

 

[MPA1988]

"A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and beat arms shall not be infringed" mean to you?

How much authority does that statement give the government in the regulation of arms?

Don't know how much authority that statement gives the government. It is vague. I am bearing arms, but I do know that my right to bear arms is being restricted as to "where" I can CC, which is where the gun rights agenda needs to focus on. Not on open carry. Maybe someday SCOTUS will clarify.

 

[MPA1988]

Calling people nuts? Which side are you on? If you believe in a different level of restriction why cant you do that civilly.

I clarified what I meant by gun "nuts". You can choose to accept it or not.