I need this forum's advice

[Darkpriest667]

So.. It is what it is.

Everyone knows I am a huge Canik fan here. I own 5 of them, but this Mete MC9 has been nothing but trouble. I sent it back twice, they replaced the recoil spring twice. I had a gunsmith shave the extractor down and polish the ramp as well as inspect every other part of the gun.

Yet between 30 and 60 rounds through it I will get a failure to return to battery all the way.. I've put almost 1000 rounds through the gun at this point. It's well past break in point.

A gun person at one gun range said that my grip is too weak and that's causing it. That seems unlikely, but possible. I've owned at this point over 30 semi automatic pistols and none of them even the smallest snappiest pistols Ive fired have ever had this problem.

So what should I do? Should I just throw it in the safe call it a lemon or should I sell it to someone else knowing that it MIGHT not return to battery if they need it. Seriously not sure what to do here as I've never had a problem with a firearm like this

 

[smittyb]

So.. It is what it is.

Everyone knows I am a huge Canik fan here. I own 5 of them, but this Mete MC9 has been nothing but trouble. I sent it back twice, they replaced the recoil spring twice. I had a gunsmith shave the extractor down and polish the ramp as well as inspect every other part of the gun.

Yet between 30 and 60 rounds through it I will get a failure to return to battery all the way.. I've put almost 1000 rounds through the gun at this point. It's well past break in point.

A gun person at one gun range said that my grip is too weak and that's causing it. That seems unlikely, but possible. I've owned at this point over 30 semi automatic pistols and none of them even the smallest snappiest pistols Ive fired have ever had this problem.

So what should I do? Should I just throw it in the safe call it a lemon or should I sell it to someone else knowing that it MIGHT not return to battery if they need it. Seriously not sure what to do here as I've never had a problem with a firearm like this

If you sell it to an individual, you should disclose all the information you did above. If they choose to purchase it, it’s their baby.

 

[oldag]

Limp wristing should not be an issue with a decent pistol design. I have tried to make a 1911 malfunction due to a loose grip and could not make it happen.

You could try letting someone else shoot it and see if they have issues with it.

 

[MTA]

I would do a full disclosure sell but before I did that I would try to have someone else shoot it at the range as a sanity check

 

[Ausländer]

If you were a new shooter, then limp-wristing it could be a problem. However, since you aren't a new shooter and are able to use other semi's without issue, the common denominator appears to be the MC9.

Maybe it's the grip angle, the length of the grip, the trigger, a sub-conscious thing now, who knows... Unless you absolutely love this pistol and can't see yourself using anything other than it, I'd say call it a day, take it as a learning experience and get rid of it.

 

[crosseyedshooter]

Just my two cents...If Canik copied the stepped chamber of the Walther, then they will be sensitive to cartridge case dimension as well as dirty chambers. My Walther P99 and PPQ would fail to go into battery after about 400 rounds without cleaning. Some ammo would work better than others and reloads were spotty.

You could try the "plunk" test which is just taking the barrel out, with muzzle down, and dropping your ammo into the chamber to see if it goes all the way in without resistance. Try multiple rounds or, if you have calipers, measure the diameter of the cases for the ammo you're having trouble with.

If you isolate the problem to ammo or chamber bore, then the next step would be to use ammo with case diameter on the small side or look for burrs or irregularities inside the chamber.

Also, you might try to keep track of your magazines to see if the malfunctions follow a particular magazine.

 

[zackmars]

I know a nice italian company that'll hook you up with a *real* nice pistol.

What ammo are you using? Caniks tend to be pretty heavily sprung, so I'd suggest a few hundred rounds of 124 gr NATO or this stuff: http://www.sgammo.com/product/9mm-l...n-flat-nose-fmj-ball-winchester-m1152-active-

 

[ZX9RCAM]

Are you a lefty?

 

[Darkpriest667]

I know a nice italian company that'll hook you up with a *real* nice pistol.

What ammo are you using? Caniks tend to be pretty heavily sprung, so I'd suggest a few hundred rounds of 124 gr NATO or this stuff: http://www.sgammo.com/product/9mm-l...n-flat-nose-fmj-ball-winchester-m1152-active-

I've shot about 10 different ammo types from 115gr to 147 gr.. they all do it.. from every manufacturer.

 

[BigRed]

So.. It is what it is.

Everyone knows I am a huge Canik fan here. I own 5 of them, but this Mete MC9 has been nothing but trouble. I sent it back twice, they replaced the recoil spring twice. I had a gunsmith shave the extractor down and polish the ramp as well as inspect every other part of the gun.

Yet between 30 and 60 rounds through it I will get a failure to return to battery all the way.. I've put almost 1000 rounds through the gun at this point. It's well past break in point.

A gun person at one gun range said that my grip is too weak and that's causing it. That seems unlikely, but possible. I've owned at this point over 30 semi automatic pistols and none of them even the smallest snappiest pistols Ive fired have ever had this problem.

So what should I do? Should I just throw it in the safe call it a lemon or should I sell it to someone else knowing that it MIGHT not return to battery if they need it. Seriously not sure what to do here as I've never had a problem with a firearm like this

You should give it to BigRed free of charge.

 

[seeker_two]

I've heard of a lot of issues with the MC9. It's kept me from considering it as a new pocket piece.

 

[alternative]

Many reports of this.

 

[Darkpriest667]

Many reports of this.

I'm aware, you can see my comment ON that video.

 

[Darkpriest667]

I've heard of a lot of issues with the MC9. It's kept me from considering it as a new pocket piece.

I like it more than my P365, I like the way it feels, the way it shoots, the trigger, EVERYTHING, but this ONE damn thing is keeping me from carrying it.

 

[zackmars]

You aren't being Turkish enough

 

[alternative]

I'm aware, you can see my comment ON that video.

With almost 2,000 comments on the video I didn't review them all to see if your name was one of them. Seems like this is a design flaw. People may love Canik but I wouldn't buy a Turkish gun.

Have you tried replacing the striker spring as one commenter said?

 

[toddnjoyce]

I’d worry less about an occasional OOB than having the ejector worked over if I was going to sell. Seems OOB instances are more common on this particular model than the average pistol though, which indicates a design flaw more than anything.

If I had a reason to hang on to it, I would; fact is this ain’t likely got sentimental or collectible value so I’d disclose and sell or trade at a small discount off average used price.

 

[Sam7sf]

So.. It is what it is.

Everyone knows I am a huge Canik fan here. I own 5 of them, but this Mete MC9 has been nothing but trouble. I sent it back twice, they replaced the recoil spring twice. I had a gunsmith shave the extractor down and polish the ramp as well as inspect every other part of the gun.

Yet between 30 and 60 rounds through it I will get a failure to return to battery all the way.. I've put almost 1000 rounds through the gun at this point. It's well past break in point.

A gun person at one gun range said that my grip is too weak and that's causing it. That seems unlikely, but possible. I've owned at this point over 30 semi automatic pistols and none of them even the smallest snappiest pistols Ive fired have ever had this problem.

So what should I do? Should I just throw it in the safe call it a lemon or should I sell it to someone else knowing that it MIGHT not return to battery if they need it. Seriously not sure what to do here as I've never had a problem with a firearm like this

Sometimes the outside face of the extractor needs smoothed out. Early xds’s wouldn’t go into battery because the outside faces geometry would struggle to go over the rim.

 

[Tnhawk]

So.. It is what it is.

Everyone knows I am a huge Canik fan here. I own 5 of them, but this Mete MC9 has been nothing but trouble. I sent it back twice, they replaced the recoil spring twice. I had a gunsmith shave the extractor down and polish the ramp as well as inspect every other part of the gun.

Yet between 30 and 60 rounds through it I will get a failure to return to battery all the way.. I've put almost 1000 rounds through the gun at this point. It's well past break in point.

A gun person at one gun range said that my grip is too weak and that's causing it. That seems unlikely, but possible. I've owned at this point over 30 semi automatic pistols and none of them even the smallest snappiest pistols Ive fired have ever had this problem.

So what should I do? Should I just throw it in the safe call it a lemon or should I sell it to someone else knowing that it MIGHT not return to battery if they need it. Seriously not sure what to do here as I've never had a problem with a firearm like this

I have an Ed Brown pistol which took multiple trips to the range, different magazines and ammunition before it became a reliable gun after 7-800 rounds. I cleaned it frequently and ran it wet until it was finally broke in.

 

[Brains]

Just my two cents...If Canik copied the stepped chamber of the Walther, then they will be sensitive to cartridge case dimension as well as dirty chambers. My Walther P99 and PPQ would fail to go into battery after about 400 rounds without cleaning. Some ammo would work better than others and reloads were spotty.

You could try the "plunk" test which is just taking the barrel out, with muzzle down, and dropping your ammo into the chamber to see if it goes all the way in without resistance. Try multiple rounds or, if you have calipers, measure the diameter of the cases for the ammo you're having trouble with.

If you isolate the problem to ammo or chamber bore, then the next step would be to use ammo with case diameter on the small side or look for burrs or irregularities inside the chamber.

Also, you might try to keep track of your magazines to see if the malfunctions follow a particular magazine.

I have a Walther PPX that has a firm dislike for ammo at the top limits of spec and will pretty consistently fail to return to battery. I set my hand loads a little short and crimp ever so slightly more and the problem disappears.