Does this semi-auto 10mm pistol configuration exist?

[ekim]

Got to have something to complain about. Can't find it and don't want one made to his wants, oh well do without.

 

[seeker_two]

Why a double-stack magazine?

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[ekim]

Why a double-stack magazine?
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Helps him not find what he wants.

 

[Kar98]

The Bren Ten technically matches what I am seeking however for several reasons I am not going to look into acquiring that pistol.

Next closest thing and probably easier to find and less expensive would be the EAA Witness. Only got a 4.5" barrel though.

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/795710058

 

[Renegade]

I am 10mm fan, am unaware of anything that meets all those requirements. Many fall 1 item short.

 

[avvidclif]

Learn how to shoot and won't need more than a single stack...

Ducking and running

 

[m5215]

Next closest thing and probably easier to find and less expensive would be the EAA Witness. Only got a 4.5" barrel though.

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/795710058

Yes I think this is going to be the closest that matches what I am looking for. I would rather have the shorter barrel then having to deal with a SA only pistol. I will have to think about this one.

 

[m5215]

Learn how to shoot and won't need more than a single stack...

Ducking and running

I like a large grip so having a double stack pistol guarantees me to not worry about having a small single stack grip. The extra rounds in a double stack are a nice bonus also.

 

[ZX9RCAM]

In two different places they call this DA.
I suppose it must be capable of SA as well.

 

[m5215]

In two different places they call this DA.
I suppose it must be capable of SA as well.

I got a confirmation from EAA that it is both DA and SA so other then the 4.5 inch barrel it matches everything else that I am looking for.

Also Wolff Gun Springs has all the springs needed for this pistol so I can change out the stock 16# hammer spring for a smoother 13# one and get replacement recoil springs as needed since they will need to be replaced about every 4000 rounds depending on how hot the 10mm ammo used is. I always check for a reliable long term source for springs before I purchase any firearm.

 

[m5215]

Helps him not find what he wants.

LOL. My friend, from the beginning I have had focused and specific requirements on the pistol I am searching for. I am not keen on dropping those requirements to find a quick "solution". Perhaps a 4.5 inch barrel may be acceptable however its not optimal for what I want. I will have to evaluate if this will be an acceptable concession. In any case I do appreciate any suggestions and constructive comments from anyone.

 

[ekim]

LOL. My friend, from the beginning I have had focused and specific requirements on the pistol I am searching for. I am not keen on dropping those requirements to find a quick "solution". Perhaps a 4.5 inch barrel may be acceptable however its not optimal for what I want. I will have to evaluate if this will be an acceptable concession. In any case I do appreciate any suggestions and constructive comments from anyone.

If I was dead set on what I wanted and could not find it as I want it I would go the extra mile and have something close modified to meet my wants. Why spend that much money and still not have what you want is all I'm saying. Make a one of a kind and be happy.

 

[m5215]

If I was dead set on what I wanted and could not find it as I want it I would go the extra mile and have something close modified to meet my wants. Why spend that much money and still not have what you want is all I'm saying. Make a one of a kind and be happy.

Building a custom pistol is a huge cost and brings up other potential long term concerns so I am not going to go down that route.

Actually it looks like the EAA pistols are fairly modular so I may possibly be able to acquire a 6 inch 10mm slide from one of the other EAA pistols and use it on the 10mm DA frame that uses double stack magazines. I am looking into this possible arrangement now.

 

[Maverick44]

1. Steel slide AND steel frame.
2. Double stack magazine.
3. Double + Single action.
4. 5 to 6 inch barrel. (closer to or at 6 inches is preferred)

I found a gun that fits your needs almost exactly. The Grand Power P40

Steel slide and frame
14 round double stack mag
DA/SA
4.25" barrel

You are going to have to make SOME compromise, and 0.75" of barrel is probably the smallest compromise you could make out of your requirements. What you want does not exist from what I could see. Especially a 6" version.

I'm sure you can have a custom gun made for an outrageous price though.

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[Dawico]

Good luck.

Sounds like EA and Sig are your closest options with minimum customization to fit all your requirements.

Luckily I like Glocks so the choice would be simple for me.

 

[Dawico]

I never saw what your intended use would be.

Do you own or have you fired a 10mm pistol?

I am curious to that as I bought into the 10mm craze years ago and was sorely disappointed. It's not the big boomer it is touted to be by the 10mm fanbois.

And yes I handloaded full power ammo.

It just isn't the Magnum round in a pistol platform that they want you to believe.

I'd just hate to see you spend a lot of time and money to get exactly what you want and end up disappointed like I was.

 

[SQLGeek]

My friend, from the beginning I have had focused and specific requirements on the pistol I am searching for.

How dare you want what you want. Spend your money the way I see fit.

 

[Maverick44]

I never saw what your intended use would be.

Do you own or have you fired a 10mm pistol?

I am curious to that as I bought into the 10mm craze years ago and was sorely disappointed. It's not the big boomer it is touted to be by the 10mm fanbois.

And yes I handloaded full power ammo.

It just isn't the Magnum round in a pistol platform that they want you to believe.

I'd just hate to see you spend a lot of time and money to get exactly what you want and end up disappointed like I was.

Depends on what type of magnum you're talking about. I see the fanboys tout it as being like a 41 magnum, and I guess that's true if you're downloading 41 magnum. It doesn't come near full power 41 mag. It DOES pretty much match and in a lot of cases beat 357 Mag though. I feel that is a more realistic comparison. My 3" 357 mag is getting about 1300 FPS with a 125gr bullet. 10mm can do that with an 180gr bullet and a full power load.

I was surprised how soft shooting the 10mm was. My mother who is not much of a pistol shooter liked it, even with full powered loads. It kind of makes me wonder what kind of baby handed agents the FBI was hiring in the 80s.

I too, am curious what the OP intends to do with this unicorn of a gun. A 6" steel framed double stack 10mm is going to be heavy as hell, and not that great for carry. For hunting and range use, a double stack mag is not a necessity (it arguably isn't for self defense too). The barrel isn't going to do much for power either. Going from a 4" to a 6" barrel is only going to give you about 100 FPS in most cases.

 

[Hoji]

I have a 10mm conversion for my UZI.

 

[m5215]

I never saw what your intended use would be.

range, home protection, OC

Do you own or have you fired a 10mm pistol?

Yes I have fired and previously owned a 10mm pistol.

Why the hell do you want a pistol like that?

Put simply I like double action, all metal, long slide, double stacked magazined pistols!