Cruz Quits

[vmax]

Can you imagine millennials trying to construct a new constitution on Facebook, Twitter and Instagram?

The horror!

they would not likely survive the insurrection

 

[Mreed911]

If anything, we should be encouragIng a Sanders third party run. Or Bloomberg.

 

[FunnyFarm]

So you should be held to your word for everything you said 17 years ago? Is one not allowed to change their opinion or view point? I know plenty of people that were against guns 1 year ago, then I took them shooting, and a few now have CHLs.

Tsk tsk, you're not addressing my post. My post said I am more likely to trust what people have to say when they are not trying to gain my favor. Your reply was way off. Everyone is entitled to change their opinion but it doesn't appear to be genuine when it occurs during an election. If Kevin Bacon ran as a Republican next election and changed his stance on firearms after he started campaigning would you trust him enough to give him your vote?


[/QUOTE]I'm not saying I trust his word 100%, but to iron him out as anti gun from something he said turn of the century is a little harsh. He may not believe in 100% freedom, but he certainly isn't coming to take every gun. Heck, he might not have known exactly what the AWB was back then because he didn't have a vested interest in it.
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"Turn of the century", LOLOLOL. If you're not an attorney then you really ought to consider that as a career. He published that stance in a book, published it. On the other hand his "pro-gun" stance didn't hit daylight until late in his second republican campaign. If someone holds a pro-abortion stance it's not harsh to say their pro-abortion. If someone takes a pro-government run healthcare stance then it's not harsh to say they support government run healthcare. If someone says that the governments redistribution ones property for the use of another is wonderful then it's not harsh to say they support eminent domain or what it really is; wealth redistribution. Donald Trump has said that he supports the AWB and longer waiting periods and I put more stock in that than his conveniently new stance.

 

[TheDan]

Your gun collection will meet a chop saw...

Nevermind politics; why would you let that happen?

 

[Mexican_Hippie]

they would not likely survive the insurrection

LMAO!

ha ha

 

[AMSS]

 

[HKShooter65]

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More precisely, FoxNews and the like created Trumpenstein.

 

[Recoil45]

I do t know if the GOP created him. But they certainly made him stronger.

 

[bdee]

If anything, we should be encouragIng a Sanders third party run. Or Bloomberg.

I think Sanders is smart enough to know that if he doesn't get the nomination/ white house, his best chance of influencing the country is in forcing the Democratic Party to adopt a platform closer to his position. He might even force Hillary to take on Elizabeth Warren as VP and act as heir apparent to Hillary in 2024.

 

[Mexican_Hippie]

Don't over-estimate Sanders' intellect. After all, he thinks Socialism works.

 

[bdee]

Don't over-estimate Sanders' intellect. After all, he thinks Socialism works.

He thinks social democracies like in Scandinavia work, and they do.

 

[oldag]

He thinks social democracies like in Scandinavia work, and they do.

If you consider handing over 75% of your paycheck to the government working, then I guess they do.

Personally, I don't consider that working.

Socialism has murdered more people than any other form of government, by a long shot.

Socialism's natural end is at best a "benevolent dictatorship", at worst an evil dictatorship.

And socialism has been nothing short of a disaster in South America.

 

[oldag]

If stopping her from getting 270 is the goal then you need another center to run. Running a conservative right wing that we all would like wont do it.

In a "normal" election, I would agree with you.

But I think almost any alternative to Trump/Hillary would win the middle ground. Even a conservative. As long as he didn't wear an obnoxious rug or have the last name of Clinton.

 

[Mexican_Hippie]

He thinks social democracies like in Scandinavia work, and they do.

I think you and I have a different definition of "work"

 

[bdee]

If you consider handing over 75% of your paycheck to the government working, then I guess they do.

Personally, I don't consider that working.

Socialism has murdered more people than any other form of government, by a long shot.

Socialism's natural end is at best a "benevolent dictatorship", at worst an evil dictatorship.

And socialism has been nothing short of a disaster in South America.

First we already lose 75% of our income to various taxes in America, and get far less for our money.

Second, social democracies and communist dictatorships are two entirely different things. People are trying to escape Cuba, North Korea and the old Soviet Union. They are trying to get into Denmark, Sweden and Norway. Now, if you thought they were all socialist, this might be confusing, but it is the premise that is faulty. One has a system where you democratize both the politics and the economy, and one system has an oligarchy that controls both the economy and the political realm.

There seems to be a real lack of understanding of how social democracies work, or have any understanding why these Scandinavian countries consistently rank in the top ten of the happiest countries on Earth.

Six of the top ten happiest countries are in Scandinavia. Cuba and North Korea aren't among them, weird huh?

http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/16/travel/worlds-happiest-countries-united-nations/

 

[Mexican_Hippie]

I know exactly how they work. They all take all your money and redistribute as they see fit.

Peoples' happiness there is irrelevant.

 

[Chirpy]

And have their defense paid for by NATO, aka the American Taxpayer.


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[bdee]

I know exactly how they work. They all take all your money and redistribute as they see fit.

Peoples' happiness there is irrelevant.

As opposed to taking all your money, distribute it as they see fit, give you none of the benefits from those taxes, and then convince you that you live in the land of the free.

 

[Mexican_Hippie]

I don't pay 75% taxes here. Not even a close comparison.

 

[Vaquero]

Independence.

They'll get what I'll allow them to have.