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[breakingcontact]

I live a more libertarian life through my actions and rejections of gov services than most "libertarians" I know.

 

[breakingcontact]

To return to the OP...why is it so hard for men...to promote men being masculine and not feminine? Why has that become so foreign? Oh...thats right. Socialism.

 

[Younggun]

You really think its that simple?

I think thats why libertarianism appeals to people. It paints things so simply. "Im for freedom and you arent!" They yell into a vaccuum.

I never said anything was simple. But from my previous posts on this board and discussions I have had you should know what I mean.

But it's true that both sides are for regulating people in to living by their sides beliefs. It's just different beliefs they want to regulate people in to living by.

For that reason, I made the statement you quoted.

 

[Younggun]

I live a more libertarian life through my actions and rejections of gov services than most "libertarians" I know.

Rejections of gov services, probably so.

Depending on how you define "actions" and judging only from your posts here, I would say probably not. But that's only from a surface view of your online persona and I could be mistaken.

 

[Saltyag2010]

You really think its that simple?

I think thats why libertarianism appeals to people. It paints things so simply. "Im for freedom and you arent!" They yell into a vaccuum.

Out of context- I think bathrooms are simple. The outside has a men or women sign. Forget "gender" think inside pants. That's how bathrooms are simple. Man parts down there or woman parts down there, got both?

 

[Ole Cowboy]

I was being a bit facetious, but I do agree with your point. There are dudes who are pretty normal other than the fact they like other dudes, and then there's the militantly flamboyant crap you see on TV and news articles.


Exactly... Gays and trans-gender people have been around for all of human history, and everyone gets along just fine. It only becomes an issue when someone starts to use them as tools; either as scapegoats, or useful idiots are as we're seeing with the leftists today.


I'm on the side of freedom. The queers and the traditionalists will have to work together to destroy me before they can have their battle over which totalitarianism they want.

You are correct there. Sure you can find some conflicts, but no more than the conflicts between dogs and cats in the SAME household. Now my ole Coon hound, Buddy, well, he just sees cats as another game animal and out where I live they are feral and ole Buddy is 5 and 0...

 

[bones_708]

Here is what you don't seem to be getting. The rest of us want to be left alone. They want us to participate in their fantasy. I don't want to. I want them to stay out of my business just as much as I want to stay out of theirs.

I have said many times I don't give a shit what they do. Don't make me participate.

At work, I just want them to do a job. If they can't perform because I won't play along that's on them. They made the choice, it's their choice, not mine. Don't make me play along. Don't like it, don't get the operation. Can't deal with the consequences because everyone doesn't agree with you, tough shit. This is America, we don't have to agree to work together or even be friends.

Something about your rights end at the end of your fist and the tip of my nose. I won't bother them if they don't bother me.

You also seem to be assuming a lot of us would treat a transsexual poorly. You are wrong. I have dealt with them, many times. Some of them are not bad folk other than I think they're a little messed up. Ah well, no skin off my nose. None of them have insisted I refer to them by whatever gender it is they think they are and have got along just fine.

I still call BS. If they dress like, live life as a woman then I can call her Ma am rather than Sir. Just the same as I can call some of the pieces of crap I have dealt with Sir when they don't deserve anything but to be spit on. And mind you this is AT WORK. Don't like it then work for yourself.

And for the most part I think it's pure prejudice. An excuse to express one's negative opinion.

 

[Mike1234567]

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[TheDan]

Mainstream society which the socialists are reprogramming and the libertarians are cheering on in the name of "freedom" is not going to be sustainable and the only freedoms that you will be left with are the ones that further the sick socialist cause.

If you actually read my post, you could see that I wasn't cheering them on. I pointed out that the leftists are using them as tools. Homosexuals will be one of the first groups of people they send to the ovens once they finally achieve total government. That has been the case all throughout history.

You're either for using the force of government to impose your beliefs on others, or you're not. It is simple. It's a first principal. You always talk about absolutes vs. relativism; why do you insist on over-complicating and getting bogged down in a grey area on this topic?

 

[Saltyag2010]

You are correct there. Sure you can find some conflicts, but no more than the conflicts between dogs and cats in the SAME household. Now my ole Coon hound, Buddy, well, he just sees cats as another game animal and out where I live they are feral and ole Buddy is 5 and 0...

Our neighbor was a widow when I grew up. When she moved into a retirement home her cats bred like crazy and we had a terrible feral cat infestation, she had a lot of cats. When they started terrorizing the elderly neighbors we started putting out coon traps and spotlighting them. No more feral cats near my parents ranch.

Bottom line- if there's a real problem you can't rationalize it away with liberal tolerance bs. Handle it and don't leave room for questions and debate. Don't give anyone special treatment and don't label or classify people by skin color, religion, or sex. News companies thrive on sensationalism. What is sensational about gays and trans whatever's? Nothing. We should all treat it that way. Cowboy kill all those damn cats.

 

[Ole Cowboy]

Our neighbor was a widow when I grew up. When she moved into a retirement home her cats bred like crazy and we had a terrible feral cat infestation, she had a lot of cats. When they started terrorizing the elderly neighbors we started putting out coon traps and spotlighting them. No more feral cats near my parents ranch.

Bottom line- if there's a real problem you can't rationalize it away with liberal tolerance bs. Handle it and don't leave room for questions and debate. Don't give anyone special treatment and don't label or classify people by skin color, religion, or sex. News companies thrive on sensationalism. What is sensational about gays and trans whatever's? Nothing. We should all treat it that way. Cowboy kill all those damn cats.

and dead cats tell no tales...LOL<

 

[308nato]

He still is a "he" and always will be. Swinging Richard deleted and fun bags added, still a he. A very very troubled "he".

You neuter a male dog do you stop calling him "boy"?

I agree 100% and the worst part is the libs are forcing this crap on the school kids with this transgender BS.

 

[TheDan]

I agree 100% and the worst part is the libe are forcing this crap on the school kids with this transgender BS.

Do you really want the government raising your kids? Home school or private school is the only way to go.

 

[Ole Cowboy]

You cannot make a he a she and a she a he, can't get there from here...you can put all the lipstick on the pig you want to, but it ain't gonna change a thing. You are either a swinging Richard or a bouncing Betty, you can cut them off or add them on and you are still the same. Put all the Corvette stickers on the Malibu you want but it still ain't a Corvette.

For these reasons you are not entitled to use the men's or women's side of the bathroom...now you can head to Germany where they don't have a difference that fine, been there done that and have no issue with it, but this is not Germany!

 

[Vaquero]

It's just wrong.

 

[Jakashh]

edit to add: Why isn't "donkies" the plural of donkey?

Wasn't aware that it wasn't...

 

[TX69]

BS. I don't care if it's a 400lb monster that works the dock and is straight as the day is long. If he wants to be called Mary, asks me to call him Mary, then simple courtesy says you call a person by the name they give you. They want a mister, ma am, Mrs., or Sue then give them that. Refusal to do so isn't because you suddenly can't tell what color a bench is, but that if you don't register you distaste for even one day someone somewhere might get the idea your ok with what someone else does that should have zero effect on you. The only reason this would have any effect is because you wouldn't leave it alone and let someone be. IT'S WORK!! You do your job and shut your dang mouth about things that don't have a direct effect on the job. (understand I don't mean you personally I meant the people who had to run their mouth and caused a problem). Sure there are some LBGT who are on a crusade and this that or the other, but honestly and statistically I would bet most just want to get along and do their jobs and live their lives. They don't want to be the poster child for anything and are just trying to have a decent life. I don't get it but it's not about me or you.

Its agreeable that you want it to be just work but in the real world it is never that way. In America the work place has been and will always be used as a social meeting place for everyone. Key reason why we have such a huge law base for Human Resources today.

Although your thinkng in admirable it isn't what is happening in the American workforce.

 

[TheDan]

Wasn't aware that it wasn't...

I assumed the same, but spell check disagrees.