Just curious, would you hold off shooting if some dude that was high as a kite pointed a gun at you? I mean, come on. That's not a reasonable request.
You're kind of jumping the gun here. HOW do they get the stop? Is the guy just going to magically give up with 50 more cops show up? They best way that I can see to stop him would be spike strips, and that's not going to stop him immediate. In fact, it might not stop him for awhile. At that point, you have a guy that's high off his ass driving down the roads in a truck that is now hard to control. What if he hits and kills someone? Again, you can't really expect the police to use a PIT maneuver when he's sticking a gun out the window and pointing it at them. What are they supposed to do in that situation?
Also remember, this guy had what the officers had every reason to believe was a gun. I don't care if it ended up being a toy or not, they were told it was a gun, it looked like a gun, and he was pointing it at them like a gun. Who's to say someone like that wouldn't start shooting at the officers in the pursuit or at random citizens? Can the officers shoot back during the chase once one of their own is killed?
You see the point I'm getting at, right? It's not always as simple as waiting for back up.
Again, would you give an attacker the first shot? No? Then why would you expect the police to wait until the guy shoots at and potentially kills an officer to use lethal force?
In a perfect world, every bullet would be accounted for, every violent suspect would be in front of a mountain of dirt, and every officer would be able to hit a bullseye at 50 yards with their side arm. This is not a perfect world, and rarely do police have the luxury of having everything you described. They should be mindful of where they are shooting no doubt, but you don't always get to choose the circumstances in which that happens.
Never said it was. Nothing is solely black or white.
Here’s an instructional video on shooting from cars
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Rather than re-hashing the same ground, will leave it at we will just have to agree to disagree.
While no real rounds were fired by the driver, several witnesses said the driver was firing his gun.
Gotta love the Monday morning quarterbacking going on here. About the same as officiating in the NFL.
Point of info...Excellent example of the lack of reliability of witnesses.
Gotta love the Monday morning quarterbacking going on here.
About the same as officiating in the NFL.
Probably arent the targeted audience.Verbosity abounds!
So what is the appropriate protocol to take when someone points a gun at you that you are chasing?
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Lots of words, didn't read...
Still I'll play along, kinda. In this instance I probably would have backed off. That said in the other rolling gunfight recently whe the people in the SUV were shooting at anything and everything and had committed a serious crime iirc before the police contact I have no problems with the officers, multiple officers, engaging as they chased thru town.
Not enough info to answer that question but that's the point of such over simplifications. Arent they.
In this instance they were obviously legally justified to respond as they did with the information they had, at least at some point and enough not to be charged for any negative consequences of their actions.
So, attempting to simply ask shoot or dont shoot is a rather disingenuous question. Kinda like when someone say guns are needed as a check on tyranny and get the rhetorical question "what are you going to do shoot the government? " it's meant to force a simplistic contrivance so the other party can play gotcha if they dont like the answer.
Still I'll play along, kinda. In this instance I probably would have backed off. That said in the other rolling gunfight recently whe the people in the SUV were shooting at anything and everything and had committed a serious crime iirc before the police contact I have no problems with the officers, multiple officers, engaging as they chased thru town.
Nothings simple, that's why you break it down.