Precision Rimfire Platforms

[toddnjoyce]

..Technique and range time is what wins matches. All that weight makes for a very stable platform.

Great point.

Why do you need attachment points? Bipod, nope. A good rest for the forearm and rear of the stock.

You really need to define what you are trying to do. It sounds like you want a do it all rifle and not a precision hole punch.

Again, good point. Not sure I need attachment point.

Part of this thread is to help me further define what I’m trying to do. So far, is cut my existing best 50-yd/5 shot group in half and consistently keep it there. The target group size is .65”.

Beyond that, I think it turns to transferable or foundational skills for hitting precisely what I’m aiming for at various distances. Again, that’s range time, mainly. A lightweight rifle isn’t required for that.

 

[ZX9RCAM]

Beyond that, I think it turns to transferable or foundational skills for hitting precisely what I’m aiming for at various distances. Again, that’s range time, mainly. A lightweight rifle isn’t required for that.

Who'd a thunk it...

 

[toddnjoyce]

... I have one (FVSR from 2012) that I’m currently reconfiguring for NRL22 matches that you are welcome to sit behind when it’s back together....

What is your attraction to a chassis system, adjustability or accuracy?

Thank you for the offer.

What I like about *most* chassis systems is they incorporate adjustable LoP and comb, which is important to me. I also like the modular aspect to them.

Someone asked about what CZs I have access to with the pro discount. Pretty much the entire 457 lineup and the 512 for Rimfire. Elsewise, it’s available on most of the popular CZ and DW weapons, too.

 

[Vaquero]

I don't think he's going to be shooting bulk ammo and getting dime size groups.
The good .22lr ammo isn't exactly expensive, but it ain't cheap.
The .17s deserve some consideration.
I'm not too sure about the .22 mag though.
It can be expensive and not as accurate as the. 17s.

 

[easy rider]

Why do you need attachment points? Bipod, nope. A good rest for the forearm and rear of the stock.

You really need to define what you are trying to do. It sounds like you want a do it all rifle and not a precision hole punch.

All depends on what you may want to use it for, I'll admit that at the range I'll probably use a bench rest, but a bipod comes in handy if you want to use a rifle for hunting.

 

[easy rider]

I don't think he's going to be shooting bulk ammo and getting dime size groups.
The good .22lr ammo isn't exactly expensive, but it ain't cheap.
The .17s deserve some consideration.
I'm not too sure about the .22 mag though.
It can be expensive and not as accurate as the. 17s.

I have to agree with Vaq. I have fun shooting my .22lr, but if I want more accuracy at 100 yards and beyond my .17wsm is a much better choice.

 

[EZ-E]

I have Ruger American's in .17hmr & 6.5cm .. they definitely need up graded stocks. Both shoot great out to 200yards imo & I'm just an average guy behind the rifles. I also have a CZ pistol that shoots better than me most days. For accuracy I would lean towards the CZ.

With a $1k budget & your discount you should be able to get the CZ Precision trainer in .22 & a .17hmr barrel. You would have a more traditional looking weapon going that route.

Or just buy the RPR in .22 & .17hmr for the tacticool look. At $399 each you'd be less than the CZ Precision is @ retail before extra barrel.

Then throw a Vortex Crossfire 3x9 on..they're around $120 on amazon.

My hardest decision putting myself in your shoes is going the traditional look or the tacticool look. Not sure if they make aftermarket barrels for the RPR but that would be the cheaper upgrade in the future based on the aluminum chassis upgrade on anything else.

 

[toddnjoyce]

Going to check this out later today.

https://www.durysguns.com/shop/ruger-10-22-22-lr-used-gun-inv-202282

 

[toddnjoyce]

The good .22lr ammo isn't exactly expensive, but it ain't cheap.
The .17s deserve some consideration.
I'm not too sure about the .22 mag though.
It can be expensive and not as accurate as the. 17s.

I have to agree with Vaq. I have fun shooting my .22lr, but if I want more accuracy at 100 yards and beyond my .17wsm is a much better choice.

CZ 455 combo is on my short list. Ships with both 22LR and 17HMR.

https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/mobile/product/72178/redirect

Guns America did a full review and seemed happy with it.

https://www.gunsamerica.com/digest/...-from-cz-usa-model-455-american-combo-review/

The compromise would be good glass and so the chassis later, if I wanted to.

 

[toddnjoyce]

Going to check this out later today.

https://www.durysguns.com/shop/ruger-10-22-22-lr-used-gun-inv-202282

Lots of goodness. In the end, it’s a 10/22. Pass.

 

[robertc1024]

CZ 455 combo is on my short list. Ships with both 22LR and 17HMR.

https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/mobile/product/72178/redirect

Guns America did a full review and seemed happy with it.

https://www.gunsamerica.com/digest/...-from-cz-usa-model-455-american-combo-review/

The compromise would be good glass and so the chassis later, if I wanted to.

I heard mixed reviews on them, I thought the older 452's with the set triggers were the ones to get. I know you started the thread with rimfire in mind, but from my limited experience, there's such a huge difference between a .22 and a .17, specifying one or the other would help.

 

[toddnjoyce]

I heard mixed reviews on them, I thought the older 452's with the set triggers were the ones to get. I know you started the thread with rimfire in mind, but from my limited experience, there's such a huge difference between a .22 and a .17, specifying one or the other would help.

The equation pits economy of .22 vs performance of .17.

The primary goal is .65” @50 yds/m.

Once that goal is achieved, I will be pushing it out.

 

[Vaquero]

The equation pits economy of .22 vs performance of .17.

The primary goal is .65” @50 yds/m.

Once that goal is achieved, I will be pushing it out.

Please don't challenge Robert with equations.

 

[robertc1024]

The equation pits economy of .22 vs performance of .17.

The primary goal is .65” @50 yds/m.

Once that goal is achieved, I will be pushing it out.

Ahhh. I apologize for not understanding that earlier. That'd be easy with a .17. Now I'll have to shoot some .22lr groups for real with some of my rifles. Where the heck is Acornu? He knows this stuff backwards and forwards.

 

[toddnjoyce]

Ahhh. I apologize for not understanding that earlier. That'd be easy with a .17. Now I'll have to shoot some .22lr groups for real with some of my rifles. Where the heck is Acornu? He knows this stuff backwards and forwards.

From a simple skills perspective, .17HMR makes it easier on the front side, but the wind challenges it at longer distances.

The .22, *I think* is more challenging overall because it’s just not a high performing round.

What I like about the 455 combo is it’s ready to go in both calibers. Room to grow, so to speak. I heard from Vortex today and I can get the DBII in 6-24 FFP for $299 with the pro discount.

Things are starting to take shape...

 

[toddnjoyce]

If you're not worried about having ffp, the Viper HST is a good choice for 200 yards.

Is this what you're running on your Savage?

 

[AustinN4]

From a simple skills perspective, .17HMR makes it easier on the front side, but the wind challenges it at longer distances.

The .22, *I think* is more challenging overall because it’s just not a high performing round.

What I like about the 455 combo is it’s ready to go in both calibers. Room to grow, so to speak. I heard from Vortex today and I can get the DBII in 6-24 FFP for $299 with the pro discount.

Things are starting to take shape...

Maybe I have missed it, but what pro discount do you have, if you don't mind saying?

 

[toddnjoyce]

Maybe I have missed it, but what pro discount do you have, if you don't mind saying?

Mil/LE

 

[easy rider]

Is this what you're running on your Savage?

Yes.

 

[avvidclif]

Midway will solve the scope issue for you for a long time and several calibers.
Vortex Viper PST Gen II FFP, 3-15x44 $650, 5-25x50 $750.