Is anyone else concerned about

[karlac]

Isolationism to an extent is good. Handouts to other nations is one of the reasons our nation is $22 trillion in debt.

The EU open borders policy and economic model is an example of the harm that comes with getting too cozy with other nations.

Brexit is analogous to some of the ills that are kicking our nations yass.

Exactly.

Pretty damned obvious, looking at how long we've been there and what its cost us in blood and debt, that our current strategic vision for the Middle East is not remotely shared by the many factions that make up the ME, nor will it ever be.

There is no way in hell that we will ever reach a point, despite the blood of our young and a debt ridden economy, where these factions will ever exist without conflict. History continues to repeat itself, ad infinitum.

So what the **** are we doing there? It's not a case of "if we don't fight them there, we'll have to fight them here", because it has become obvious that we will have to fight both there AND here.

Particularly if we continue with the current strategic vision of the likes of Mattis and the Washington elite ... who damned sure have not proven to be on the right track.

Pretty damned sure that Trump has figured that out and is looking to rectify what obviously has not worked, at a cost that we can not sustain, and which does not bode well for the future of our country in both lives lost and economic danger.

Seeing what's going down with Syria, I'm of the opinion that this President has awoken to the above and decided the best interest of our country, as the centerpiece of his future Syria/ME plans, does not include the current strategic vision that is not standing the test of time ... and thank God for that.

YMMV ...

 

[oldag]

So what the **** are we doing there? It's not a case of "if we don't fight them there, we'll have to fight them here", because it has become obvious that we will have to fight both there AND here.

And that attitude is what led us to 9/11.

Keep 'em hiding in caves over there and they don't have time to plan or execute 9/11 type attacks. And the next one could easily be much worse than 9/11.

 

[karlac]

At the rate we're going it's be your grandkids, and their, kids paying the price over there, and we'll be as bankrupt as Venezuela to boot.

This crap of sending our youngsters to fight with political ROE that tie their hands must stop. When we decide we've had enough, we turn the sandbox into glass and do it to actually solve the problem, not continue it.

We didn't give the Japanese the option ...

 

[ekim]

And that attitude is what led us to 9/11.
Keep 'em hiding in caves over there and they don't have time to plan or execute 9/11 type attacks. And the next one could easily be much worse than 9/11.

Really, I thought it was some radical ishlamist's doing what they always have done, kill innocent people for their sick so called"religion". Then there is the rumor that our powers to be knew that it was going to happen/planned it. The reasons vary from money to power and control or just because they could or see what the people would say/do.

 

[oldag]

At the rate we're going it's be your grandkids, and their, kids paying the price over there, and we'll be as bankrupt as Venezuela to boot.

This crap of sending our youngsters to fight with political ROE that tie their hands must stop. When we decide we've had enough, we turn the sandbox into glass and do it to actually solve the problem, not continue it.

We didn't give the Japanese the option ...

I would agree with applying overwhelming force and if the Syrians, Turks, Iranians or Russians get in the way, that is their problem.

 

[birddog]

What’s going to be a game changer geopolitically is when the need for fossil fuels ends. That, is going to be extraordinarily disruptive to world geopolitics and nation-state economies that generate most of their GDP by selling it.

Gonna be a fun ride when we finally get there. Kudos to Tesla for pushing it forward.

 

[oldag]

Then there is the rumor that our powers to be knew that it was going to happen/planned it. The reasons vary from money to power and control or just because they could or see what the people would say/do.

Those buying into that rumor should be sure they have tin foil under their socks...

 

[oldag]

What’s going to be a game changer geopolitically is when the need for fossil fuels ends. That, is going to be extraordinarily disruptive to world geopolitics and nation-state economies that generate most of their GDP by selling it.

Gonna be a fun ride when we finally get there. Kudos to Tesla for pushing it forward.

Umm, first of all power generation is only one use for petroleum.

Second, unless one wants to go nuke power (which I personally favor), fossil fuels are needed for power generation. Too much wind/solar combined with a lack of thermal (fossil fuel) generation leads to an unreliable grid.

 

[Big Green]

And that attitude is what led us to 9/11.

Keep 'em hiding in caves over there and they don't have time to plan or execute 9/11 type attacks. And the next one could easily be much worse than 9/11.

BS

Some reports state that our presence over there in the first place caused UBL to grow angry and start planning. Not because we weren’t there but because we were there.

 

[birddog]

Umm, first of all power generation is only one use for petroleum.

Hence the reason I said fossil fuels and not petroleum.

Petroleum will be in demand for materials science and manufacturing but the use of plastics in some areas of manufacturing is being supplanted by cellulose based materials and ceramics, both of which are typically biodegradable.

Too much wind/solar combined with a lack of thermal (fossil fuel) generation leads to an unreliable grid.

The unreliable nature of wind/solar has more to do with the inability to store excess capacity generated during off-peak hours. Tesla Li-Ion storage resolves that problem by providing the ability to store excess generated energy for availability during high demand cycles.

Recently developed Li-Fl batteries have 10x+ the energy density. When they hit the manufacturing pipeline the economic benefits of inexpensive, non-toxic high density storage will scale exponentially.

Wind farms can’t sell a product when there’s no demand. That doesn’t mean the wind stops blowing.

 

[Charlie]

I love politics. No matter what one says, they can never be right ....................... or wrong.

 

[Davetex]

We went into Afghanistan in 2001. Soon, the sons and daughters of the first to go in there will be going. Do we really want two generations of our best men and women going in there? Really? Maybe somebody can convince me that it's smart, and there's a good reason, but I doubt it.

 

[ekim]

Those buying into that rumor should be sure they have tin foil under their socks...

Is that your opinion or do you know the real truth. Please enlighten us oh all knowing one. And all your verifiable proof.

 

[ed308]

Is that your opinion or do you know the real truth. Please enlighten us oh all knowing one. And all your verifiable proof.

Do you think you'd believe him even if he did lay it all out for you? Doubtful.

 

[ekim]

Do you think you'd believe him even if he did lay it all out for you? Doubtful.

Until proven wrong I'll give him a chance. He's done pretty good so far, IMO.

 

[oldag]

Hence the reason I said fossil fuel and not petroleum.

Petroleum will be in demand for materials science and manufacturing but the use of plastics in some areas of manufacturing is being supplanted by cellulose based materials and ceramics, both of which are typically biodegradable.



The unreliable nature of wind/solar has more to do with the inability to store excess capacity generated during off-peak hours. Tesla Li-Ion storage resolves that problem by providing the ability to store excess generated energy for availability during high demand cycles.

Recently developed Li-Fl batteries have 10x+ the energy density. When they hit the manufacturing pipeline the economic benefits of inexpensive, non-toxic high density storage will scale exponentially.

Wind farms can’t sell a product when there’s no demand. That doesn’t mean the wind stops blowing.

Glad to see you are aware of the other uses of petroleum, many folks are not.

Ask Southeast Australia how well that new Musk provided battery storage worked out for them. Don't expect a prompt reply to your email, though, as they may be in a blackout. Reliance on renewables and batteries has been a disaster there. Battery storage is nowhere near commercially feasible. I currently work in renewable energy generation, by the way. I know whereof I speak. The first wind site battery farm in the U.S. was installed some years ago at one of my sites. Was a great science project, but worthless. The company who built and owned the battery farm went bankrupt as the operating expenses were 2.5 times higher than projected. The wind farm owner lost money on the operation as well.

And the sentences in bold above show a clear lack of knowledge of the industry. The problem is not that wind is producing when there is no grid demand. The problem is that wind power cannot produce on demand when the need exists and the wind is low. If the wind ain't blowing, they ain't spinning. And since battery storage is still a joke (neither commercially or technically feasible), when the wind stops if you have too much grid reliance on wind, somebody is going to be without power. Hard fact.

 

[oldag]

Until proven wrong I'll give him a chance. He's done pretty good so far, IMO.

Since you are the one promoting the wild eyed conspiracy theory, let's see your proof. I won't be holding my breath.

 

[Mowingmaniac 24/7]

What happens when these wind generators are no longer of their admittedly inefficient use?

Who'll remove them?

Junk dealers? Will doing so be profitable enough for them to bother? Or, will they simply be a corroding blight?

Ever been in one? They're huge, plus require maintenance.

I can see some dystopian future with people living wretchedly in them, before they fall down on their own accord.

 

[ekim]

Since you are the one promoting the wild eyed conspiracy theory, let's see your proof. I won't be holding my breath.

Proof of what

 

[birddog]

Glad to see you are aware of the other uses of petroleum, many folks are not.

Ask Southeast Australia how well that new Musk provided battery storage worked out for them. Don't expect a prompt reply to your email, though, as they may be in a blackout. Reliance on renewables and batteries has been a disaster there. Battery storage is nowhere near commercially feasible. I currently work in renewable energy generation, by the way. I know whereof I speak. The first wind site battery farm in the U.S. was installed some years ago at one of my sites. Was a great science project, but worthless. The company who built and owned the battery farm went bankrupt as the operating expenses were 2.5 times higher than projected. The wind farm owner lost money on the operation as well.

And the sentences in bold above show a clear lack of knowledge of the industry. The problem is not that wind is producing when there is no grid demand. The problem is that wind power cannot produce on demand when the need exists and the wind is low. If the wind ain't blowing, they ain't spinning. And since battery storage is still a joke (neither commercially or technically feasible), when the wind stops if you have too much grid reliance on wind, somebody is going to be without power. Hard fact.

Having to explain shit all the time is growing tedious so here’s the short version; “I don’t know the industry” is silly. As fk.

Please don’t take offense but you don’t know me, yet you sure know how to make assumptions. I’ll leave it at that.

On another note, Israel has started kicking the shit out of Iranian weapons deliveries in Syria.

https://m.jpost.com/Israel-News/Report-Syrian-Air-Defenses-intercept-missiles-near-Damascus-575428