Ted Cruz says vote Libertarian?

[Recoil45]

The two not getting along has been in the headlines for two days. It's a darn cheap way to keep trumps name in the media.

 

[rushthezeppelin]

http://theweek.com/articles/636942/donald-trump-lose-but-darkly-dystopian-vision-america-might-win

"Darkly dystopian"

I get flamed on this board for saying it......but out country is just not as bad at trump would lead us to believe!!!
We are not weak. We are free. We are not headed in "wrong directions".

Ain't no politician that's gonna' decrease the national debt, so don't even go there.

Both parties hate the opposing candidate.
Neither party finds their own candidate inspiring by any consensus!

I hate to be a debbie downer but you have your head in the sand. We probably have 1,000-10,000 terrorists in the country atm (depends on how fake Obamas refuge numbers are, lots of indications they underestimate by ten fold and that is if just 1% of them are radicalized), this is the first president ever to never see 3% growth rates (and that's with cooked inflation numbers), our debt is sky high, our fake ass currency is hanging on by the tiniest thread of the confidence of fools, our power grid is vulnerable as shit, the internet is becoming increasingly hostile to free speech and the dems are licking their chops at the chance to regulate it heavily....need I go on? Are we doing better than alot of the rest of the planet and still have decent standard of living? Sure, but it's all held up by a house of fucking cards right now. Sorry but we could be ALOT stronger and ALOT freer. The rest of your post is fairly spot on though.

 

[rushthezeppelin]

Ted Cruz to ride with Obama to Dallas on Air Force One
hmm....

Now that's a true Texan ehhhh....from Calgary, TX ehhhh...

 

[jrbfishn]

I have to agree with rushthezeppelin. The only thing that might be worse than Clinton would be 4 more years of Obama.

from an idgit coffeeholic

 

[HKShooter65]

I have to agree with rushthezeppelin. The only thing that might be worse than Clinton would be 4 more years of Obama.

from an idgit coffeeholic

Gotta love media spin, though the country is doing pretty great under (gasp,gag...) Obama is you use things like a 42% rise in Dow Jones and fantastically low gasoline prices!!!

I'd gladly take 4 more years of Obama instead of Hillary.
Probably I'd vote for Obama over Trump......classic "The devil you know.....".

Never ever thought I'd think, much less say, something so heretical.

Trump's doom and gloom diatribe disturbed me so much last night,
as did his months of tragically-effective schoolyard bullying techniques that destroyed so many candidates that would have been far more able to beat Hillary!!


Many 2012 Republican campaign promises have come true under .... Obama.
http://money.cnn.com/2016/07/22/news/economy/obama-republican-campaign-promises/index.html

 

[rushthezeppelin]

I have to agree with rushthezeppelin. The only thing that might be worse than Clinton would be 4 more years of Obama.

from an idgit coffeeholic

No difference in the end to be honest. If anything Clinton seems to be more brazen in violating the rule of law that even Obama. Obama might have been raised to be a destructive force to the country but Hillary has literally had dreams of ruling the world since she was 4 (at least according to Larry Nichols). She is the pure definition of megalomaniacal....much more so than Trump. At least there is a shred of a hope that heads will roll in Washington with Trump at the helm. Speaking of which I almost fell out of my chair laughing when I saw one of the people on my FB link this http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-purge-exclusive-idUSKCN10003A This guy is basically 2 steps from full on commie and gave the comment "That's what dictators do".....And this is someone who is sick of the establishment and was a Bern bot. Somehow establishment = bad but purging the establishment = dictator ><

 

[rushthezeppelin]

Gotta love media spin, though the country is doing pretty great under (gasp,gag...) Obama is you use things like a 42% rise in Dow Jones and fantastically low gasoline prices!!!


Many 2012 Republican campaign promises have come true under .... Obama.
http://money.cnn.com/2016/07/22/news/economy/obama-republican-campaign-promises/index.html

LMAO you think pumping tons of quantitative easing into the stock market to prop it up is a good thing? Just wait till all that cash hits the rest of the market and enjoy your 1,000,000,000,000 Zimbabwean dollar. And the low gas prices have nothing to do with Obama, that is simply the Saudis trying to kill the fracking market in the west and they are running up huge deficits to do so...that will eventually end.

 

[Mexican_Hippie]

Whoever wins is going to inherit a massive recession / depression that's coming.

 

[diesel1959]

I just sat through the video of Cruz's speech in it's entirety and I gotta tell you, that was a great speech. It wasn't anti-Trump or pro-Libertarian. It was more of a speech trying to build planks on a party platform--to stir up the loyal, the faithful, in the push towards formulating the platform moving forward. I don't see any part of the speech being pointed towards a run in the future, but towards the here and now--voting to hold the line in keeping America free and within the Constitution's guidelines. I can't fathom how anyone can view his speech as being in any way negative about the party or the party's nominee. It was inspirational and didn't need to be an endorsement.

 

[TheDan]

...like a 42% rise in Dow Jones and fantastically low gasoline prices!!!

Like RTZ says, the growth in the market is directly related to quantitative easing. It's not a sign of a healthy economy. It's great as long as you get out of the market right before the current bubble pops. When that will actually happen, only FED board members know.

Gas and oil is cheap right now because OPEC is in a price war with US and Russia. We are on the verge of energy independence, and they are trying to prevent that by crashing prices to drive domestic production out of business. Price wars are generally good for consumers, but it leads to the market having nothing but Walmart junk.

 

[satx78247]

jrbfishn,

I seldom disagree with you but "Hillary THE LIAR", if she ever became POTUS, would make FREEDOM-LOVING people long for more of Obama. = She is COMPLETELY CORRUPT, a SELL-OUT to the 1% Elites (both domestic & foreign) & a "WANNA-BE" DICTATOR. - That and her pear shape is why I frequently refer to her as, "Her Imperial THIGH-ness."

She is MORALLY UNFIT to be President of a local ISD.

Seeing/hearing her on TV/radio makes me want to vomit & preferably upon her.

yours, satx

 

[Mike1234567]

I'm voting LIBERTARIAN.

While I agree with the premise that voting for a third party CAN be considered 'wasting' my vote, I completely disagree that electing a third-party candidate can't be done. Indeed, if this country is to ever wiggle its way from under the tyrannical control of the Republican and Democratic parties we MUST vote for a third-party candidate. It's our own 'it can't be done' attitude and fear that prevents us from regaining some control and say in how our country is run. If we don't muster the courage to vote them out then we deserve what we get.

I'm voting LIBERTARIAN.

Some people say to suck it up and choose between the two evils... yet again! Will I be FORCED to choose between the worst two evils we've probably ever had to choose from? No damn way!

I'm voting LIBERTARIAN.

Everyone has the right to vote however they wish. I see a vote for Evil A or Evil B as a wasted vote.

I'm voting LIBERTARIAN.

The reality is we are our own worst enemy. We refuse to believe we can elect a third party. We're so afraid of 'wasting our vote' and have so little confidence in each other to do the right thing that we crawl into the voting booths on our hands and knees like beaten dogs to cast our precious votes for those not even worthy of consideration for those offices. We should be ashamed.

I'm voting LIBERTARIAN.

 

[Ranch Dog]

I just sat through the video of Cruz's speech in it's entirety and I gotta tell you, that was a great speech. It wasn't anti-Trump or pro-Libertarian. It was more of a speech trying to build planks on a party platform--to stir up the loyal, the faithful, in the push towards formulating the platform moving forward. I don't see any part of the speech being pointed towards a run in the future, but towards the here and now--voting to hold the line in keeping America free and within the Constitution's guidelines. I can't fathom how anyone can view his speech as being in any way negative about the party or the party's nominee. It was inspirational and didn't need to be an endorsement.

Well said!

 

[Ranch Dog]

I'm voting LIBERTARIAN.

While I agree with the premise that voting for a third party CAN be considered 'wasting' my vote, I completely disagree that electing a third-party candidate can't be done. Indeed, if this country is to ever wiggle its way from under the tyrannical control of the Republican and Democratic parties we MUST vote for a third-party candidate. It's our own 'it can't be done' attitude and fear that prevents us from regaining some control and say in how our country is run. If we don't muster the courage to vote them out then we deserve what we get.

I'm voting LIBERTARIAN.

Some people say to suck it up and choose between the two evils... yet again! Will I be FORCED to choose between the worst two evils we've probably ever had to choose from? No damn way!

I'm voting LIBERTARIAN.

Everyone has the right to vote however they wish. I see a vote for Evil A or Evil B as a wasted vote.

I'm voting LIBERTARIAN.

The reality is we are our own worst enemy. We refuse to believe we can elect a third party. We're so afraid of 'wasting our vote' and have so little confidence in each other to do the right thing that we crawl into the voting booths on our hands and knees like beaten dogs to cast our precious votes for those not even worthy of consideration for those offices. We should be ashamed.

I'm voting LIBERTARIAN.

Well said Mike! I've been a lifelong Republican but if the best the RNC can muster is a lifelong Democrat, well I'm done it and the Party needs to be voted out of existence.

I'm voting LIBERTARIAN!

 

[jrbfishn]

jrbfishn,

I seldom disagree with you but "Hillary THE LIAR", if she ever became POTUS, would make FREEDOM-LOVING people long for more of Obama. = She is COMPLETELY CORRUPT, a SELL-OUT to the 1% Elites (both domestic & foreign) & a "WANNA-BE" DICTATOR. - That and her pear shape is why I frequently refer to her as, "Her Imperial THIGH-ness."

She is MORALLY UNFIT to be President of a local ISD.

Seeing/hearing her on TV/radio makes me want to vomit & preferably upon her.

yours, satx

Totally agree with you. What ai said was not an endorsement. What Obama hasn't killed of this country, she will.

from an idgit coffeeholic

 

[FunnyFarm]

I just sat through the video of Cruz's speech in it's entirety and I gotta tell you, that was a great speech. It wasn't anti-Trump or pro-Libertarian. It was more of a speech trying to build planks on a party platform--to stir up the loyal, the faithful, in the push towards formulating the platform moving forward. I don't see any part of the speech being pointed towards a run in the future, but towards the here and now--voting to hold the line in keeping America free and within the Constitution's guidelines. I can't fathom how anyone can view his speech as being in any way negative about the party or the party's nominee. It was inspirational and didn't need to be an endorsement.

Sums it up for me, good post.

 

[easy rider]

I just sat through the video of Cruz's speech in it's entirety and I gotta tell you, that was a great speech. It wasn't anti-Trump or pro-Libertarian. It was more of a speech trying to build planks on a party platform--to stir up the loyal, the faithful, in the push towards formulating the platform moving forward. I don't see any part of the speech being pointed towards a run in the future, but towards the here and now--voting to hold the line in keeping America free and within the Constitution's guidelines. I can't fathom how anyone can view his speech as being in any way negative about the party or the party's nominee. It was inspirational and didn't need to be an endorsement.

I would agree with you if it had been done anywhere other than the RNC. The RNC is the time to rally behind the choice for the republican presidential candidate, it's not a time to air your differences. By voicing "vote your conscience" it was a direct snub rather than a unification to the republicans, therefore he was booed off stage.

 

[diesel1959]

I would agree with you if it had been done anywhere other than the RNC. The RNC is the time to rally behind the choice for the republican presidential candidate, it's not a time to air your differences. By voicing "vote your conscience" it was a direct snub rather than a unification to the republicans, therefore he was booed off stage.

The RNC has everything to do with building the planks in the platform. And I sure as hell didn't hear him being "booed" from the stage. I heard folks chanting "Cruz!" The various speakers who make their way to the podium at a convention are all about trying to help form a direction--a focus, if you will--that they hope to see the party go in making the push from convention to election day, and beyond. There was nothing about his speech that cried "ME--you need ME, not HIM". It was all about a united Republican vision that we can (hopefully) be proud about and not feel squeamish about when we go to the polls and vote our conscience. I see Cruz as meaning voting Republican, not Brand C.

 

[easy rider]

The RNC has everything to do with building the planks in the platform. And I sure as hell didn't hear him being "booed" from the stage. I heard folks chanting "Cruz!" The various speakers who make their way to the podium at a convention are all about trying to help form a direction--a focus, if you will--that they hope to see the party go in making the push from convention to election day, and beyond. There was nothing about his speech that cried "ME--you need ME, not HIM". It was all about a united Republican vision that we can (hopefully) be proud about and not feel squeamish about when we go to the polls and vote our conscience. I see Cruz as meaning voting Republican, not Brand C.

I watched it live. Near the end of his speech the crowd started chanting "Endorse Trump" then after he said to vote your conscience they were not saying Cruzzzzzzz, it was Boooooooooo.

 

[ed308]

With Johnson in the mix, Trump loses to HRC. Just like Ross Perot helped Bill Clinton win in 1992. I don't like Trump. But I'll hold my nose and vote for him. I really care about my 2nd Amendment rights.

I'm done with Cruz. I've lost a lot of respect for him this week. The show he put on was for 2020. It apparent to me now he only cares about himself.

The Dems get their shit together when elections come around. The Conservatives, they just bitch, cry and moan about their guy not making it. Then they take their ball and go home like a bunch of babies. Conservative need to grow up.