I knew backorders were crazy but dang that's a long time to wait for a press.My girlfriend bought me a turret press kit for christmas which will arrive sometime in Feb or March. I don't plan on reloading my first loads until this time next year or later. I will not be shooting until probably 2022 at this rate and that does not bother me. That's the way it is right now, this is an unprecedented shortage. It's too bad Trump didn't win the Presidency this probably would have been over by March, at this rate we'll be lucky if it's ever over.