So its 3:30am, I live in an apartment complex (quite a few robberies, lot of drunk college kids and crazies running around here) and I'm up late because I had surgery on my nose a little over a week ago, and I've been staying up late working from home and my hours are backwards. I needed to walk out to the car to grab some paper work, and I always carry my pistol with me when I walk to my car at night just for "who knows" scenarios...you can't plan.
And since I added that new viridian attachment, my old conceal holster doesn't fit anymore...I have a custom one being made, but it wont be here for another 8 weeks, so for now...I don't have a holster unless I detatch my green laser. Well, I'll be damn, after all this talk about when to pull, and when not to pull, a similar situation arises with what we have been talking about. So since I have no holster right now, I just put the pistol in my left front pocket of my cargo shorts, the butt of the handle was just barely sticking out of the pocket, so I pulled my shirt over and it concealed. So I walked to car and as I'm in my trunk, I hear a lot of yelling and about 10 -15 guys in there 20's, with a few few girls, coming down the stairs.
Not typically a big deal, but they are obviously aggravated and pumped up about something. Its not my first rodeo and I know exactly what is in the process of going down. I'm still not too concerned (but I'm cautious), I just need to get by them and they are all standing in the hallway that I need to walk through to get back to my apt.
Well, typically I wouldn't think anything about it. None of my business..I'd just walk through, but all of them are staring at me and I can hear people talking and pumping themselves up contrasted with people scared signaling there is a problem. I'm typically a little less nervous in this situation, but my nose has 3 inch splints in it to fix an old broken nose to help me breathe better and its ridiculously sensitive to even touch. So I definitely dont want to get in a fight right now, especially with 15 guys. Well I walk past a few and kind of * nod hello" and then some steroid guy with his shirt off, obviously drunk goes "Is this the mother fucker right here" and points at me.
My hand naturally gripped my gun and flipped the safety off, but kept it in my pocket.( I have a Beretta Px4 Storm, full sized so clicking the safety off keeps it in Double Action mode and safe in my pocket with my finger off the trigger) I think the butt might of been sticking out a little while it was in my hand. I'm not sure, but I tried to keep it in my pocket and then walk around them to position myself so I wasn't in the middle of them with my back to anybody.
I just looked the guy sqaure in the eye and said "nah, bro..I'm not sure what you're talking about..I was just getting some stuff out of my car." in an assertive but non aggressive voice. I maintained eye contact and he turned to his friend and he said something under his breath, Im not sure. No biggie. I just kept waking, and then when I was half way to my door, I thought I heard some one say something about a gun like "where is your gun." (Initially, I thought he said "where is YOUR gun", which concerned me...in hindsight I think he was telling the roided up guy that I had a gun)
Well my apt is on the other side of the entrance, where the other stairs are (they were blocking the opposite end, which is where I had to walk through to get to mine)..and all of a sudden like 6 dudes rush down the stairs near my door, with shirts off and at me from the other side, right by my apartment right as I'm opening my door...so I opened my door and pulled my pistol out in a ready stance at my chest as I closed the door. I guess they were rushing at the other people...and then someone knocked on my door.
I looked through peephole and it was a scared looking kid so I opened it and and had my gun out, by at my chest, but behind the door where he couldn't see it. (I had it so that I could either open and it would be pointed at him, or if he tried to open it...it would be pointing at him.)It turns out to be a younger kid said, a nice looking kid and he says. "Hey man, sorry we are bothering you...these two guys are drunk and trying to start fights with everybody. I said "do they live here" and they said "No" I said do you live here?" and he said "no" and he said, "We are trying to get him out of here, I just don't want anyone getting hurt or you shooting him or anything".
(So I guess him (or one of this friends) noticed my pistol either when I walked through the group of them when "no shirt" was screaming at me "Is this the mother fucker". Or maybe they saw me pull it out when I stepped in and closed the door when 5 of them rushed down the stairs directly at me.
Any way, I said.. "I don't want anyone to get hurt either, but you got a crazy drunk guy running around here a little to amped up and talking to strangers a little aggressively. I got a wife and two kids inside, and I don't want this kind of crap going on outside my house, especially at 3 am with drunk guys who may or may not do something stupid." He was like, "yeah we know, I'm sorry, we want him to just leave". So I said "You seem like you got a good head on your shoulders, go calm him down and get him out of here...Im going to hang out by my door and give you a chance to calm who ever he is down and get him out of here...I've been young before, but if I hear anything else or it escalates again, I'm calling the cops."
And I said "just as an FYI for you, I don't know whats happening, but if anyone brings anything crazy to my door because I'm calling the cops, or any other reason.....well.... like I said you seem like a smart guy, don't let anyone do anything stupid please." He was like "Ok man, thanks...we will, i'll get him out of here, thanks so much" and then some girls down the hall said "sorry". I don't remember if I even responded but if I did it was something like "its ok, its just time for everyone to go home. After that I heard the kid I talked to run up the stairs and say something like "Come on guys, the cops are coming the neighbors have guns we need to GO!" Or something like that and then people started shuffling off, cars started driving off and then everything got really quiet, I waited by my door with it locked for about 10 minutes...and it all died down.
Little unexpected, surprisingly I was up reading some threads here, which is why I decided to share it. Obviously nothing bad happened, and everything worked out. Im actually glad I've read a few threads on here. In a non verbal idea, some of the things we discussed about when to pull out a pistol and why you shouldn't and a lot of non verbal but general ideas where quickly flashing through my head.
It kind of reminded me how little time there is to think through what you are doing in the middle of some things. The best thing is to have some general principals and guidelines in your head ahead of time. Anyway, again, nothing big but thought it might be worth sharing before I go to bed.
And since I added that new viridian attachment, my old conceal holster doesn't fit anymore...I have a custom one being made, but it wont be here for another 8 weeks, so for now...I don't have a holster unless I detatch my green laser. Well, I'll be damn, after all this talk about when to pull, and when not to pull, a similar situation arises with what we have been talking about. So since I have no holster right now, I just put the pistol in my left front pocket of my cargo shorts, the butt of the handle was just barely sticking out of the pocket, so I pulled my shirt over and it concealed. So I walked to car and as I'm in my trunk, I hear a lot of yelling and about 10 -15 guys in there 20's, with a few few girls, coming down the stairs.
Not typically a big deal, but they are obviously aggravated and pumped up about something. Its not my first rodeo and I know exactly what is in the process of going down. I'm still not too concerned (but I'm cautious), I just need to get by them and they are all standing in the hallway that I need to walk through to get back to my apt.
Well, typically I wouldn't think anything about it. None of my business..I'd just walk through, but all of them are staring at me and I can hear people talking and pumping themselves up contrasted with people scared signaling there is a problem. I'm typically a little less nervous in this situation, but my nose has 3 inch splints in it to fix an old broken nose to help me breathe better and its ridiculously sensitive to even touch. So I definitely dont want to get in a fight right now, especially with 15 guys. Well I walk past a few and kind of * nod hello" and then some steroid guy with his shirt off, obviously drunk goes "Is this the mother fucker right here" and points at me.
My hand naturally gripped my gun and flipped the safety off, but kept it in my pocket.( I have a Beretta Px4 Storm, full sized so clicking the safety off keeps it in Double Action mode and safe in my pocket with my finger off the trigger) I think the butt might of been sticking out a little while it was in my hand. I'm not sure, but I tried to keep it in my pocket and then walk around them to position myself so I wasn't in the middle of them with my back to anybody.
I just looked the guy sqaure in the eye and said "nah, bro..I'm not sure what you're talking about..I was just getting some stuff out of my car." in an assertive but non aggressive voice. I maintained eye contact and he turned to his friend and he said something under his breath, Im not sure. No biggie. I just kept waking, and then when I was half way to my door, I thought I heard some one say something about a gun like "where is your gun." (Initially, I thought he said "where is YOUR gun", which concerned me...in hindsight I think he was telling the roided up guy that I had a gun)
Well my apt is on the other side of the entrance, where the other stairs are (they were blocking the opposite end, which is where I had to walk through to get to mine)..and all of a sudden like 6 dudes rush down the stairs near my door, with shirts off and at me from the other side, right by my apartment right as I'm opening my door...so I opened my door and pulled my pistol out in a ready stance at my chest as I closed the door. I guess they were rushing at the other people...and then someone knocked on my door.
I looked through peephole and it was a scared looking kid so I opened it and and had my gun out, by at my chest, but behind the door where he couldn't see it. (I had it so that I could either open and it would be pointed at him, or if he tried to open it...it would be pointing at him.)It turns out to be a younger kid said, a nice looking kid and he says. "Hey man, sorry we are bothering you...these two guys are drunk and trying to start fights with everybody. I said "do they live here" and they said "No" I said do you live here?" and he said "no" and he said, "We are trying to get him out of here, I just don't want anyone getting hurt or you shooting him or anything".
(So I guess him (or one of this friends) noticed my pistol either when I walked through the group of them when "no shirt" was screaming at me "Is this the mother fucker". Or maybe they saw me pull it out when I stepped in and closed the door when 5 of them rushed down the stairs directly at me.
Any way, I said.. "I don't want anyone to get hurt either, but you got a crazy drunk guy running around here a little to amped up and talking to strangers a little aggressively. I got a wife and two kids inside, and I don't want this kind of crap going on outside my house, especially at 3 am with drunk guys who may or may not do something stupid." He was like, "yeah we know, I'm sorry, we want him to just leave". So I said "You seem like you got a good head on your shoulders, go calm him down and get him out of here...Im going to hang out by my door and give you a chance to calm who ever he is down and get him out of here...I've been young before, but if I hear anything else or it escalates again, I'm calling the cops."
And I said "just as an FYI for you, I don't know whats happening, but if anyone brings anything crazy to my door because I'm calling the cops, or any other reason.....well.... like I said you seem like a smart guy, don't let anyone do anything stupid please." He was like "Ok man, thanks...we will, i'll get him out of here, thanks so much" and then some girls down the hall said "sorry". I don't remember if I even responded but if I did it was something like "its ok, its just time for everyone to go home. After that I heard the kid I talked to run up the stairs and say something like "Come on guys, the cops are coming the neighbors have guns we need to GO!" Or something like that and then people started shuffling off, cars started driving off and then everything got really quiet, I waited by my door with it locked for about 10 minutes...and it all died down.
Little unexpected, surprisingly I was up reading some threads here, which is why I decided to share it. Obviously nothing bad happened, and everything worked out. Im actually glad I've read a few threads on here. In a non verbal idea, some of the things we discussed about when to pull out a pistol and why you shouldn't and a lot of non verbal but general ideas where quickly flashing through my head.
It kind of reminded me how little time there is to think through what you are doing in the middle of some things. The best thing is to have some general principals and guidelines in your head ahead of time. Anyway, again, nothing big but thought it might be worth sharing before I go to bed.
