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  • DougC

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    From the Truth about Guns blog from a newer gun owner;

    As a newly-married public school teacher, I don’t have a ton of money to throw around, so I made a price-conscious, but reliable choice. Of course, a lot of gun enthusiasts, Facebook trolls, content creators, and even writers for reputable magazines would have me believe that I’ve wasted my money.

    When I set out to research my options, I found an insurmountable mass of conflicting information. Whether it was based on brand, price, caliber, or concealability, there is a wide range of competing narratives around what “works” and what doesn’t.

    What I found is that for every possible variable, there is a voice out there saying that if you don’t buy exactly what they tell you, you’re simply doing it wrong. This form of gun absolutism in the concealed carry world is antithetical to its goal: educating and arming the public.


    For newer readers on this forum :welcome: and those with an opinion or two :argue: the author express the reactions of "gun absolutism" by others to her decisions. Does she have a point even if you thought you were just throwing a bit of shade in fun? How well do you educate lawful and responsible potential/new gun owners?
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    BBL

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    She needs to do her own research, learn what works for her and what doesn't. If she is seeking easy answers, she's doing it wrong because she'll be buying a gun that someone else picks for her.
    And sometimes it takes a few tries to figure out what works for an individual.
     

    Chewbacca7685

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    This is commonplace in everything that has a following from guns to car to music etc. It’s up to you not to care about people’s brand/method superiority/inferiority and you should know how to filter out opinionated bs vs something of actual concern. Real members of this community don’t care what you’re carrying as long as you’re proficient with it and trust it. Be an adult and confident enough to make your own decisions. That said, the only caveat to that from my perspective is carrying on an empty chamber. If you don’t trust yourself or your gun enough not to discharge then just leave it home and head on over to Starbucks for your mocha Choca latte on your way to the pride rally.


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    zackmars

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    Usually with firearms, people complaining about absolutism are anti gunners. Ok i lied. It's not "usually", but rather "every time"

    I understand her argument but I can't shake that association.

    I also disagree with her argument. There is a right way to do things. Buying a pot metal .25acp from a pawn shop for home defense isn't it. Carrying a walther p22 isn't it. Buying a sig isn't it...

    Etc etc
     

    etmo

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    What I found is that for every possible variable, there is a voice out there saying that if you don’t buy exactly what they tell you, you’re simply doing it wrong. This form of gun absolutism in the concealed carry world is antithetical to its goal: educating and arming the public.


    the author express the reactions of "gun absolutism" by others to her decisions. Does she have a point even if you thought you were just throwing a bit of shade in fun? How well do you educate lawful and responsible potential/new gun owners?


    Education of the anti-2A crowd is one of the most important things we can do for the future of the 2A in this nation.

    I didn't read the article, but from your excerpt above, I'm inclined to believe the article is just click-bait, and the author is a moron. I don't care if you're shopping for shoes, cars, guns, or groceries, there's some troll on some forum who will throw some shade at option X, and say something idiotic along the way. Welcome to the internet. If someone lacks the skill to identify and ignore such people, that person's ability to glean useful information from the internet drops to near zero.
     

    Hoji

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    From the Truth about Guns blog from a newer gun owner;

    As a newly-married public school teacher, I don’t have a ton of money to throw around, so I made a price-conscious, but reliable choice. Of course, a lot of gun enthusiasts, Facebook trolls, content creators, and even writers for reputable magazines would have me believe that I’ve wasted my money.

    When I set out to research my options, I found an insurmountable mass of conflicting information. Whether it was based on brand, price, caliber, or concealability, there is a wide range of competing narratives around what “works” and what doesn’t.

    What I found is that for every possible variable, there is a voice out there saying that if you don’t buy exactly what they tell you, you’re simply doing it wrong. This form of gun absolutism in the concealed carry world is antithetical to its goal: educating and arming the public.


    For newer readers on this forum :welcome:and those with an opinion or two :argue:the author express the reactions of "gun absolutism" by others to her decisions. Does she have a point even if you thought you were just throwing a bit of shade in fun? How well do you educate lawful and responsible potential/new gun owners?
    Her post, if it is in the same tone as her facebook posts, comes across as condescending and snooty.

    You can be condescending and snooty if you buy an HKMP5, if you buy and brag about a Taurus in a condescending and snooty tone, expect some well deserved ridicule.
     

    Byrd666

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    I don't care. Buy a Mini gun or a .25 double shot belly gun.

    Just get a firearm that you will carry and train with consistently.

    People over think chit.
     

    Shady

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    whats the point in having a HK.45 if you cant rack the slide or handle the recoil.

    Some times a .22lr is the correct answer as a defensive gun.
     

    leVieux

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    Her post, if it is in the same tone as her facebook posts, comes across as condescending and snooty.

    You can be condescending and snooty if you buy an HKMP5, if you buy and brag about a Taurus in a condescending and snooty tone, expect some well deserved ridicule.
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    I love my Tauri. So far, all 3 have been absolutely reliable; certainly more-so than my KImber or even the G19.

    But it's been only 16 or 17 years now.

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    leVieux

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    Obviously, her ‘’thinking’’ is deficient.

    Our lives are filled with choices, and with those who offer advice on them.

    One admittedly very new to any area, especially a controversial area, should stay quiet, watch. listen, & ‘’observe’’ for quite a while BEFORE offering public opinion.

    As comments & discussions here prove; we are not all of the same mind on many topics beyond preservation of our RIGHTS of self-defense, and our RIGHTS of have the implements needed for that defense

    leVieux

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