Why does it suck?
Starting to lean away from any quick detach.
The trifecta system is from the saker, Ive never understood why they carried that name over to the specwar which uses ASR mounts. Regardless, the ASR is the one with the locking ring like on the specwar, the trifecta does not have a locking ring and is found on the saker.Looking at the Specwar 7.62.
It shows a muzzle brake and trifecta flash hider mount option but they seem interchangeable for mounting.
I guess I'm not understanding the ASR being better than the trifecta. Looks like the ASR part is in the can and trifecta is just what they call the flash hider it mounts to.
Where did I go off course?
That almost all is bad/outdated information. I don't blame you as that's what you've read but that's the problem with parroting information read on the internet.Granted I have no experience with cans other than shooting other's cans, but I've always heard if you want little POI shift and especially if it's on a bolt gun, direct thread is the way to go. Heck even once I get my can for my 300 blackout AR (soon to be ARs once I finish my 10.5" pistol), which is also what I'm looking at doing with my money coming back from uncle sam, I'm probably going direct thread. Honestly I've heard from alot of people anyway that unless you are switching platforms with your can constantly, the time it a QD mount saves you isn't really all that much in the grand scheme of things. Of course take what I say with a grain of salt though since I am a silencer newb. FWIW I've actually been looking at getting Scorpion 556 | Lane Silencers and Guns awesome price for a user serviceable can. Figure this way I can, with thread adapters, even use it on my 10/22 without much issues (as long as I always clean it before throwing it back on another platform). And also I could run traditional lube cast bullets with the 300 if for some reason I can't do my powder coating and not have issues that couldn't be resolved with a wire brush.
One other bit of advice I've seen thrown around alot. If you can afford it, the single most important thing to consider with a can (especially if it's going to be used on more than bench queens) is get a Ti can. I'm a cheap bastard though so I'm going to tough out using a SS can more than likely (still not fully decided on that as the Ti version of the can I linked is priced competitively with some SS cans).
Yeah, stay the hell away from YHM crap. I own a 7.62 ti qd phantom. It was an alright can 3 years ago when I bought it but there are far better cans out there now. 3 of the 6 mounts I have don't seat snuggly and therefor cause POI shifts but unlike the 51T theres not a whole lot you can do to fix them. Ive since given the can to my dad for his 16" 300blk along with one of the good mounts and hes happier than a pig in shit but he only hunts with his so minute of pig head is plenty accurate for him.Opinions on the YHM Phantom LT or LTA?
Yes a brake acts as a sacrificial baffle and protects the can. It is true that its really only an issue in shorter barrels where powder is still burning when the bullet leaves the muzzle and essentially acts like a blow torch on the blast baffle of the can. On a 300blk the powder burns so quick I don't think it matters. Ive been running a flashider on my 8" 300blk for a year now and 1500+ rounds with no wear at all on the blast baffle of my specwar.I read the same, seems it's more of an issue on short barrel rifles.
Might have been silencershop, but maybe somewhere else I was reading that AAC recommends the brake for barrels under 16" and the flash hider mount for longer due to the reasons you mentioned. And something about less "ping" with one or the other.
You can but the heat breaks it loose. Its not an uncommon trick to use something like liquid teflon on the threads but it will melt away, plus it makes a mess. A quality QD can is a better solution in my opinion.Speaking as someone that is TOTALLY CLUELESS about cans........with a direct thread could you (or better yet, should you) use some type of temporary thread locker??? OK.........flame away, HAAAAAA!!!!
Some are louder than others. Ive heard some that were truly terrible and others that there wasn't any real perceivable ring to it. I think its largely blown out of proportion by people but why choose a can with so many mount shortcomings when you've got such better options these days? 3 years ago when I bought my phantom you had 3 choices for QD. Expensive surefire because back then there was almost no discount on them, silencershop wanted 1600 for the 7.62 I was eyeballing PLUS $150 muzzle devices, the 51t 762 SDN6 that even then had reports of mount wobble, or the yhm that was known to be a bit louder but a better mount. In hindsight I disagree on the better mount thing and would've saved longer for the surefire but it is what it is now.The AAC Blackout Tri Spoke Mount *pings* when shot. To some people its barely noticeable. To others, they cry its like a churchbell. Either way, when your job is to silence my weapon, your mount (of all things) should not be giving off any kind of sound signature.
The trifecta system is from the saker, Ive never understood why they carried that name over to the specwar which uses ASR mounts. Regardless, the ASR is the one with the locking ring like on the specwar, the trifecta does not have a locking ring and is found on the saker.
That almost all is bad/outdated information. I don't blame you as that's what you've read but that's the problem with parroting information read on the internet.
Almost all of the bad rap QD mounts got was from the terrible AAC 18T mounts that was somewhat fixed with the 51T mounts. A quality QD mount will hang right there with a direct thread. My griffin taper mounts and the ASR mount on my specwar are both very repeatable and POI shift has more to do with the barrel length/profile and the weight of the can than the mount when using a quality mount.
The benefit of a QD mount is it adapts the can to multiple thread patterns and will also keep the can from backing off on an autoloader. You mention running the can on your 300 but linked to a 556 can, was that a mistake? Id highly recommend getting a lighter can. Unless youre bench shooting all the time that extra weight gets old. Hang some weights off the end of your gun to compare a 24oz can to a 14oz can. While on paper it doesn't sound like much, when shooting offhand it sucks.
Yeah, stay the hell away from YHM crap. I own a 7.62 ti qd phantom. It was an alright can 3 years ago when I bought it but there are far better cans out there now. 3 of the 6 mounts I have don't seat snuggly and therefor cause POI shifts but unlike the 51T theres not a whole lot you can do to fix them. Ive since given the can to my dad for his 16" 300blk along with one of the good mounts and hes happier than a pig in shit but he only hunts with his so minute of pig head is plenty accurate for him.
The best advice I can give you is don't let a 100 bucks or even 200 bucks sway your decision. Youre making a lifetime investment, get exactly what you want regardless of price because youre stuck with it.
Looking at the Specwar 7.62.
It shows a muzzle brake and trifecta flash hider mount option but they seem interchangeable for mounting.
I guess I'm not understanding the ASR being better than the trifecta. Looks like the ASR part is in the can and trifecta is just what they call the flash hider it mounts to.
Where did I go off course?
Was the issue cause by the can, or would replacing the flash hider/mount fix it?
Not really skimping on what I want to save money at this point. Just trying to find out as much as I can and filter the information. Can be about like asking which AR to buy. Everyone has an opinion and many conflict.
Once I figure out the pros and cons to the different options, I can decide what I'm willing to sacrifice in one area for the benefits in another.
As you can see, I am not shouldering it.HAAAA!!!......nice Sig Brace^^^^^
As you can see, I am not shouldering it.
heh!!!As you can see, I am not shouldering it.