What have you done to your vehicle lately?

[Dawico]

I understand squealing brakes, was looking for the visual indication.
Brake dust on my rims was a normal occurrence, lol.

You can get a little dust if you are hard on the brakes but when it really starts to build up the pads are going.

 

[Dawico]

Would these work? Do you have pads or shoes? I thought they had shoes. These are for M35 deuce and half
https://midwestjeepwillys.com/7521767.html

They do have shoes as did my 5 ton. The 5 ton shoes were about 3 times that size though.

 

[ZX9RCAM]

You can get a little dust if you are hard on the brakes but when it really starts to build up the pads are going.

Interesting, is that an intentional "alert" built in to the pads?
Is this something specific to a dually setup?

 

[grasshopperglock]

The thickness of the break pad doesn't contribute to dust. Pedal fade deals with overheated brakes or brake fluid with water in it. The heat boils the water making the brake fluid foam. Leading to fading.

The hydraulics compensate for the brake pad thickness.


It's all about the metal tab on the brake pads. The metal tab will score the rotor if the pads ain't changed out pretty quick.

 

[Dawico]

Interesting, is that an intentional "alert" built in to the pads?
Is this something specific to a dually setup?

Not intentional that I know of but just something I have noticed over the years. Definitely not an exclusive dually thing.

It may not even really be true as GHG is saying.

But the dust started to build up noticeably and now it is squealing. Seems to fit my experience that the excessive dust is the first sign of the pads going.

My F150 and Accord did the same thing.

 

[ZX9RCAM]

Is it possible that you only rinse your rims off once a year?
This would account for the dust buildup.

 

[grasshopperglock]

Or install a Jake brake. Hauling a trailer is the reason why the front pads are toast. They're having to do most of the work.

If the truck will take a Jake brake. The front pads will last a hell of a lot longer....

 

[TxStetson]

Or install a Jake brake. Hauling a trailer is the reason why the front pads are toast. They're having to do most of the work.

If the truck will take a Jake brake. The front pads will last a hell of a lot longer....

Or trade it in on a newer one where the exhaust brake is standard.

 

[Dawico]

Or install a Jake brake. Hauling a trailer is the reason why the front pads are toast. They're having to do most of the work.

If the truck will take a Jake brake. The front pads will last a hell of a lot longer....

Or trade it in on a newer one where the exhaust brake is standard.

I have the exhaust brake and run it with the tow/ haul mode when towing. It is a '16.

Not really a Jake brake but similar concept.

I will admit that I drive agressively though.

The truck has 135k miles on it. I bought it used at 98k and the previous owner was a Hotshotter that put some hard miles on it.

Not sure if this is the original set of pads but I can't complain since I consider them routine maintenance.

 

[grasshopperglock]

For a work truck that's dragged a trailer all it's life...and your foot. If the pads are original.

That mileage doesn't sound unreasonable for a brake pad change. If you're gonna do the front. Might as well get it over with and check the back.

Do them all if you need to. Then forget about it for another 100k.

 

[TxStetson]

I have the exhaust brake and run it with the tow/ haul mode when towing. It is a '16.

Not really a Jake brake but similar concept.

I will admit that I drive agressively though.

The truck has 135k miles on it. I bought it used at 98k and the previous owner was a Hotshotter that put some hard miles on it.

Not sure if this is the original set of pads but I can't complain since I consider them routine maintenance.

I love the exhaust brake on mine, and use it anytime I’m driving. I like the way it gets more aggressive in tow/haul mode too. It’s really good at maintaining speed on down grades without downshifting. The first time I heard it engage going down Ranger hill while pulling 15k lbs scared me. I had never heard the truck make that sound before.

Those probably are the original factory pads. Once they went to disc brakes on the rear, the fronts started lasting much longer.

 

[Dawico]

You really have to listen to hear mine kick on. Kind of a low rumble.

 

[TxStetson]

You really have to listen to hear mine kick on. Kind of a low rumble.

Mine is the same way, until you have a heavy load and the cruise control set on a steep downgrade.

 

[grasshopperglock]

I bet the Ford has electronic lifters. The computer shuts the valves on certain cylinders. In a way, being a Jake brake.

So instead of a valve on the exhaust. Ford just turns cylinders off and engine brakes that way.

Least my guess on how Ford does it.

 

[tangoparson]

I bet the Ford has electronic lifters. The computer shuts the valves on certain cylinders. In a way, being a Jake brake.

So instead of a valve on the exhaust. Ford just turns cylinders off and engine brakes that way.

Least my guess on how Ford does it.

Nope. Variable turbocharger inlet vanes get closed to up the back pressure.


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[TxStetson]

Nope. Variable turbocharger inlet vanes get closed to up the back pressure.


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Is the Dirtymax the same way?

 

[tangoparson]

Is the Dirtymax the same way?

No idea. I own a Powerjoke...


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[grasshopperglock]

It's ok. The GM diesel is an Isuzu motor. The first all alloy block diesel....Designed by Isuzu.

Ford use to use International motors. Navastar they called them. Then they went in house.

 

[Dawico]

New pads versus old.

Unbolt the spacers (factory parts on Ford duallies, not aftermarket truck rice crap) and the rotors come right off.

Should be plenty of steel left to get them turned. Get that done in the morning and put it all back together.

 

[308nato]

Just had new rotors and pads on the front and the rear ones are still good to go.
New hoses and belt and thermostat.
good for another ten years.LOL
2008 Hyundai Sonata