I read just fine. You assume too much. Security only knows, does what they are told. They are not employed by Walmart, so don't necessarily know of company policies. Which change daily with Walmart. If the manager told them to question anyone, or everyone about a possible gun issue, then that is what they do. Walmart is really gun shy about this stuff as to not to offend anyone, so they have Security as a buffer, they can claim no liability. With all the shootings that have happened at Walmart, I'm surprised they allow it at all. But aga not wanting to offend customers. You say Walmart, Security needs to be more informed, and know the laws, etc. But that isn't the way it works. People only know what they need to. But you not knowing what their orders are, seems to be the same as them not knowing the legality ot you conceal carry. Potato, pototoe.. Seems like both parties are misinformed. I was just speaking, from experience. Sorry if you misunderstood and got offended thinking I was attacking you.Well first of all, the Security Guard was not following Was Mart policy. The policy was posted on the outside wall and clearly stated as a lawfully licensed holder I was allowed to carry.
Secondly, the Guard was not acting on Wal Marts behest but that of a customer ( ignorant as he may be)…..So, what’s your problem other than reading comprehension?
Lol, I have been a Walmart employee, Retail sales,Corrections Officer, and Security Officer. Yes..the "guard" title is a tv, movie thing.. the license actually says Corrections Officer, and Security Officer..what can I say, I get bored easily.TRIX,
Are you a security guard?
I think a lot of it has to do with location. Small town, or big city,This is why I don't go to WalMart. They never have what I'm looking for, the lines are extremely long (although they have six or eight (at least!! and generally never have more than three opened!) registers for checking out. If I do ever go back I will be open carrying! Just to piss them off.
I read just fine. You assume too much. Security only knows, does what they are told. They are not employed by Walmart, so don't necessarily know of company policies. Which change daily with Walmart. If the manager told them to question anyone, or everyone about a possible gun issue, then that is what they do. Walmart is really gun shy about this stuff as to not to offend anyone, so they have Security as a buffer, they can claim no liability. With all the shootings that have happened at Walmart, I'm surprised they allow it at all. But aga not wanting to offend customers. You say Walmart, Security needs to be more informed, and know the laws, etc. But that isn't the way it works. People only know what they need to. But you not knowing what their orders are, seems to be the same as them not knowing the legality ot you conceal carry. Potato, pototoe.. Seems like both parties are misinformed. I was just speaking, from experience. Sorry if you misunderstood and got offended thinking I was attacking you.
I remember this forum being more laid back and understanding, guess things have changed alot while I've been gone. Hope your shopping experience, is better next time.
Maybe ......................I think a lot of it has to do with location. Small town, or big city,
He was polite and non confrontational. I thought I would use it as an educational moment and not be the least adversarialI only have two responses to someone representing themselves as private security or some sort or the other.
Am I free to leave?
Are you detaining me?
I’ve been in Wal Marts all over the States of TX and NM…… big and small towns. The only deference I have seen is the disparity in the amount of firearm related products some store do and don’t carry. Usually more in the smaller and more rural locations.Maybe ......................
Some of the security are Law Enforcement. I guess this can start a debate about on and off duty.Hah! If they are private security, they cannot detain you or keep you from leaving, especially if you're just walking around. They can have an a police officer, etc. come and detain you or run you off, etc.
Some of the security are Law Enforcement. I guess this can start a debate about on and off duty.
El paso, New Mexico forget the town, Missouri, one is too many.. Walmart considered not allowing firearms of any kind after the El Paso shooting. Have you not noticed how Walmart is trying to distance themselves from almost anything gun related? omg. Policy changes with the manager of the store, and what they want not necessarily the co as a whole. But it doesn'tmatter, you won't see anything from a different point of view other than your own.. I'm sure we can agree Walmart while it does serve a purpose, is evil. And for the security, they a tasked with responding to all concerns, even including those of other customers. Alas, we have come full circle. And are back to where it began. Just to say the same again. The security did what they are tasked to do, you as a legal cc did what you should, ask questions. Try to educate others. So all was good. Better to ask and assess the situation. For all they knew, you were not a good person there for nefarious reasons. Its all about perception. But had the busy body just gone on their way, you wouldn't have been bothered. A d wouldn'thave anythingto post about. Walmart doesn't have in house security, they hire a security company. Currently I believe they are under contract with Signal88. Or that is the company in this area any way. I could ask the manager. But have only tried to get correct information out, so maybe the next person has a better experience. Isnt that what this board is about?All the shootings? Care to name the vast amount you claim. As I said it was not a Wal Mart employee that brought attention to my being armed to the Guard, it was a customer. Additionally, if the Wal Mart did not allow firearms, why would they have it posted on the outside store front that they do. If Wal Mart does not hire the security, who does? I’ve been going into Wal Marts armed since I received my CHL in 2009, there policy has never “changed “ from day to day as you claim.
Security CAN NOT detain you, unless you are caught committing a felony.I only have two responses to someone representing themselves as private security or some sort or the other.
Am I free to leave?
Are you detaining me?