That's a good start Nguyen. I'm impressed with the rush 72 so far it seems like a sturdy pack. 5.11 list the price as $179.99 but I got it for $123.31 plus shipping totaled out to $136 and it shipped fast like 3 days, I got it from manventureoutpost.com if anybody is interested. Manventure is also a Texas based company out of Hutchins, TX.