Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick says Senate currently lacks the votes to pass permitless carry

[Mike_from_Texas]

That is worse then.

Yes it pretty much sucks. For the good cops it likely won’t be an issue. For the others I can see this getting ridiculous with the harassment.


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[cycleguy2300]

Could be wrong, but an AR pistol, even though it is classified as a pistol, is still treated like a rifle. IE, can be open carried on a sling, one point sling or traditional

No, a pistol needs a holster, even when it is silly.
A sling on an AR pistol would be no different than a lanyard on a traditional handgun, i.e. not a holster.

That said, its not something I am exactly concerned about unless I have to be. For all I know it is a rifle or a SBR with a brace because you broke your stock.

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[Sasquatch]

No, a pistol needs a holster, even when it is silly.
A sling on an AR pistol would be no different than a lanyard on a traditional handgun, i.e. not a holster.

That said, its not something I am exactly concerned about unless I have to be. For all I know it is a rifle or a SBR with a brace because you broke your stock.

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And local cops don't enforce the NFA (or shouldn't...) so do they care if its a registered SBR or not?

 

[toddnjoyce]

And local cops don't enforce the NFA (or shouldn't...) so do they care if its a registered SBR or not?

See that video from the jackass in OK. Joe Citizen calls in man with a rifle because he doesn’t know the difference between an AR pistol and an AR rifle and you end up with a high octane LEO encounter. In those situations, the letter of the law can become moot.

 

[Rhino]

I have not had time to completely discect the HB 1927, but in a basic sense: Same rules that apply to current LTC holders apply to anyone. Issues specific to licenseless carry: any peace office can disarm and hold you to check out why you are carrying but they do ahve to return firearm and unless they can prove a criminal intent they have to release. One issue is open carry might be a problem:
"(a-5) A person commits an offense if the person carries a handgun and intentionally displays the handgun in plain view of another person in a public place. It is an exception to the application of this subsection that the handgun was partially or wholly visible but was carried in a holster."

This leaves open the question what is intentionally displaying? Might be one for the next legislature to clear up.

Overall, keep it hidden, keep it sane and all is well

If enough LTC holders open carry and run the risk of being carded by LEO, eventually the LEOs will get tired of checking... That’s one reason I open carry - for others’ sake. I don’t particularly fear officers outside of my car (had a few negative experiences in small towns looking for $$$ in the past in cars - won in court, but still sucked).
I’ve open carried most of the last few years and have never been stopped to check my LTC status - never.

 

[benenglish]

No, a pistol needs a holster, even when it is silly.

This has been previously covered on TGT. There have been belt holsters made for AR-pattern pistols.

 

[cycleguy2300]

And local cops don't enforce the NFA (or shouldn't...) so do they care if its a registered SBR or not?

State law prohibits NFA items (felony) unless you have a federal tax stamp...

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[TexasRedneck]

We will have to live with it for now but We need to develop a laundry list of improvements for them to inact in the next session

Believe me - TSRA's already talking about it. They're waiting on final verbiage, then we'll be dissecting it w/attorneys. There's also the strong possibility that some of the provisions aren't going to be enforceable because they're not going to be legal - personally, I think the ability for an LEO to stop me simply because I have a gun is going to be found illegal...felt that way when I first saw it, but frankly figured to let 'em put it in if it makes 'em feel good and either get it removed later, or let the courts tell 'em to.

 

[TexasRedneck]

You are correct, the real issue ongoing will be just how peace officers decide to enforce the law at their level. If rank and file LEOs treat CC as a non issue then it should be a good thing. The real problem will be police chiefs, city councils, mayors, sheriffs who do not like the idea of CC and put pressure on their employees to pressure those who CC.

Much as the City of SA did back in the 90's when they were pushing their "no carrying of loaded "Assault Weapons" in your vehicle. Tried for several years to get arrested for it, but even the beat cops KNEW it was bogus. I coulda been a rich man...lol

 

[Wolfwood]

State law prohibits NFA items (felony) unless you have a federal tax stamp...

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Don't forget it is only a defense to prosecution if you have a stamp. You can still be arrested. Technically. Please correct me if I'm wrong on this. Another one of the reasons I haven't bothered with nfa items. I don't have time for that!

 

[billtool]

Don't forget it is only a defense to prosecution if you have a stamp. You can still be arrested. Technically. Please correct me if I'm wrong on this. Another one of the reasons I haven't bothered with nfa items. I don't have time for that!

I want a suppressor though...
Isn't it interesting that in some countries they are a requirement? It's a law that you must have one.

 

[Wolfwood]

I want a suppressor though...
Isn't it interesting that in some countries they are a requirement? It's a law that you must have one.

HB 957 passed

Apologies if this is dupe, i couldn't find another thread about HB957 here or the NFA section. Please move or delete as appropriate. So HB 957 just passed per https://capitol.texas.gov/BillLookup/History.aspx?LegSess=87R&Bill=HB957 A few websites have described the bill as What this bill...

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[CodyK]

Looks like it just got back through the house and now it’s heading to the senate tomorrow for the final vote before it goes to the governor! This may actually happen!


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[Dylan40cal]

Good news!
Texas House, on a 82-62 vote, just passed #HB1927 Permitless Constitutional Carry.
Now the senate!

 

[Dylan40cal]

Looks like it just got back through the house and now it’s heading to the senate tomorrow for the final vote before it goes to the governor! This may actually happen!


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Almost done!

 

[Wolfwood]

it would be cool if the motorist protection act included mounts.

 

[Shady]

I lost the link but you can goggle ar holster they are out there.

 

[craigntx]

Will this allow oc also or just concealed?

 

[satx78247]

Will this allow oc also or just concealed?

craigntx,

IF the info that was posted last PM on the WORLDWIDEWEIRD is correct, the open & concealed carry of handguns will be allowed.

yours, satx

 

[Renegade]

Don't forget it is only a defense to prosecution if you have a stamp. You can still be arrested. Technically. Please correct me if I'm wrong on this. Another one of the reasons I haven't bothered with nfa items. I don't have time for that!

Defense was removed a few years ago and it is now non-applicable.