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  • JohnnyLoco

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    By whom? Isn't he regarded as the all-time greatest lyricist of pop music?

    Now if you are talking underrated by religious and liberty-minded folks, I would agree, because his Christian albums are some of the best ever, from Slow Train to Shot of Love, and he also talked early on about the erosion of our rights and liberties.
     

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    By whom? Isn't he regarded as the all-time greatest lyricist of pop music?

    Now if you are talking underrated by religious and liberty-minded folks, I would agree, because his Christian albums are some of the best ever, from Slow Train to Shot of Love, and he also talked early on about the erosion of our rights and liberties.
    Even with all the music industry accolades, the mainstream music listening public needs to respect him even more. MORE!

    Agreed on the 2nd part.
     

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    I forgot Street Legal as well, not technically a Christian album but has some of the themes that would be developed later. The Changing of the Guard lyrics are mind blowing if you understand lyrical composition and poetry.

    No, not all rednecks are dumb.
     

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    Even with all the music industry accolades, the mainstream music listening public needs to respect him even more. MORE!

    Agreed on the 2nd part.

    They respect him up until '67. After that, he rejected the critics and the hippy generation outright and was hated for that. Nashville Skyline and Self Portrait were generally despised because he went country.

    He gained some favor in the 70s after Blood on the Tracks, but his ultimate sin was becoming Born Again and making Slow Train Coming and Saved. He was never forgiven for that, and probably never will be. It was his ultimate middle finger to the liberal, elitist, high-minded, self-righteous hippy generation.

    He really has been in obscurity since about '68, so I guess you are right to a certain extent.
     

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    In my mind, nobody in Rock music comes close to Dylan for lyrics. Lennon comes close in a few songs, Van Morrison as well, but nobody is in the same ballpark over five decades and 70+ albums.
     

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    Isn't this a gun forum?

    As for Dylan, nobody who knows anything about music would ignore the tremendous affect he had on lyrics and performance since the early 1960s. Your selection of a rave is confusing.

    Doesn't matter anymore, since record companies have worked out a formula for turning out crap (disco/rap/hip-hop) that allows them maximum profit for minimum risk.
     

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    Yeah, Pete Seeger and the other "folk music" commies hated Dylan.

    I think they said he sold out when he went electric and starting singing about things other than flowers and stupid protest crap. Alright, if Highway 61 and Blonde on Blonde were selling out, then thank God he did. But they were probably just jealous to discover that he was a musical genius and had more talent in his right pinky than all of them put together. Even a highly gifted musician, Mark Knopfler (one of the best guitarists ever in my mind) called Dylan a lyrical and vocal genius, not so much on the guitar or piano though.

    As far as selling out, he never had a #1 hit and barely any of his singles cracked the top 20 I believe. Some of his albums went to #1, as they should have.
     
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    Good news: Succeeding.

    Isn't this a gun forum?

    As for Dylan, nobody who knows anything about music would ignore the tremendous affect he had on lyrics and performance since the early 1960s. Your selection of a rave is confusing.

    Doesn't matter anymore, since record companies have worked out a formula for turning out crap (disco/rap/hip-hop) that allows them maximum profit for minimum risk.
    OK.
     
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