What is driving you to ignore biology? Are you ignoring the studies concluding there are IQ variances from race to race?I have revised that opinion. I now hold that, in general, there is little or no difference in native intelligence.
What is driving you to ignore biology? Are you ignoring the studies concluding there are IQ variances from race to race?I have revised that opinion. I now hold that, in general, there is little or no difference in native intelligence.
The correlation between race and test scores does not strictly reflect biology. To take an IQ test, you have to have had the opportunity to develop a measurable IQ...so we are talking about a young adult being tested at the very least.What is driving you to ignore biology? Are you ignoring the studies concluding there are IQ variances from race to race?
Does that make the IQ tests of gorillas, other animals, those with mental disabilities, and those otherwise not a young adult invalid?To take an IQ test, you have to have had the opportunity to develop a measurable IQ...so we are talking about a young adult being tested at the very least.
Watson was an excellent biologist and will always be positively recognized for his Nobel Prize for DNA. On the subject of generalized intelligence assessment, the modern equivalent of the IQ test, it is best to read more current work by Educational Psychologists, Industrial Psychologists, Clinical Psychologists, Doctors of Education, and Human Resource professionals and many other academics and professionals who are advancing the science and practice of intelligence testing. Undoubtedly, there are genetic differences across peoples. Yesterday I read that the people of Europe and Asia have more Neanderthal DNA than Africans, because that's where those humans migrating from Africa encountered them. But those genetic differences related to intelligence and the degree of impact they have on intelligence is both tough to identify and quantify. Genes are a physical thing, but they only serve their purpose when they are activated...often by environmental factors. (For example, your genes predispose you to Alzheimers, but you don't actually get Alzheimers until your environment or bad life choices activate those genes). On the other hand, it is very easy to examine factors like nutrition (something that can help activate a gene!!!) and socio-economic, and these are showing stronger causal relationships to intelligence.Does that make the IQ tests of gorillas, other animals, those with mental disabilities, and those otherwise not a young adult invalid?
James Watson did a gigantic study on race and IQ correlation. Woke mob showed up and stripped him of all his accomplishments then proudly declared the consensus among scientists concluded there was no correlation between race and IQ and continue to bury his work and silence those who want to study it further. This is where my overall doubt and skepticism comes from; if the woke mob shows up and says the science is settled on race and IQ, and every study in the last 100 years is simply wrong I then develop more doubts about "the consensus".
I agree with many of your (and others) points of socioeconomics. Even if you're gifted and have an IQ of 160 but your entire life is only ever shown degenerate stupidity, you're not likely going to realize the environment you were raised in is terrible and break out to become a doctor.
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I thought it was illegal.
Do we need more laws against it?
What is driving you to ignore biology? Are you ignoring the studies concluding there are IQ variances from race to race?
QFT. Not that people and animals are equivalent, but we've all had 1 really dumb dog/cat, and 1 really smart dog/cat and sometimes were the same breed.But those genetic differences related to intelligence and the degree of impact they have on intelligence is both tough to identify and quantify.
Peter Drucker once said "culture eats strategy for breakfast".Culture, or lack thereof is more important in intellect than any other factor.
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As a devout Southerner, adoptive Texan, & PG GG GS of an actual Confederate Colonel; I was raised to view Blacks as somewhat less ‘’intelligent’’ than other races. I was taught to help them whenever there was opportunity; but to not associate with them on a social basis.
My late Ancestors delighted in teaching Blacks basics of economics, especially in making them homeowners, not perpetual renters.
After a long career of teaching & cooperating with all races & ethnicities, I have revised that opinion. I now hold that, in general, there is little or no difference in native intelligence.
What, then is the invisible barrier holding many back ?
Our American Black ‘’elites’’ and educated first generation immigrants often observe in private that the media & leftist government’s continual oft-repeated claims that they are mistreated here in our USA, are not helping.
During long one-on-one teaching/work sessions with young Black African MD’s, I found them much easier to converse frankly with than our heavily pre-sensitized young domestic Black Docs.
Indeed, I now view all ‘’affirmative action’’ as harming rather than helping.
This has been especially evident in Medicine, Aviation, in some Military applications. Two of the brightest young folks recently were an actual Black NSA Rocket Scientist/Engineer, and a young Black Neurosurgeon.
There is Hope for us all, and for everyone.
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Drucker was talking about organizational culture and its ability to obstruct a planned organizational change-- unless the change planners included cultural change (perhaps 1, 2, 4, 10, 13, 15, 16 above) as part of the organizational change, the change effort will fail. Norms can also be codified as rules or laws, this is where things like hiring practices and anti-discrimination laws come from. Some now say all organizational change is really cultural change. Change is easiest to motivate in others when there is a great danger, catalyst, or inflection point. This is why COVID was amped up...to create the desire to return to normal...which could be hijacked to create a "new" normal.What type of culture?
18 Elements of Culture
1. Norms
2. Languages
3. Festivals
4. Rituals and Ceremonies
5. Holidays
6. Pastimes
7. Food
8. Architecture
9. Religions
10. Values
11. Taboos
12. Sports
13. Clothing and Outfits
14. Music
15. Social Hierarchy
16. Symbols
17. Dance
18. Art
QFT. Not that people and animals are equivalent, but we've all had 1 really dumb dog/cat, and 1 really smart dog/cat and sometimes were the same breed.
FWIW, if there is an average IQ of 120 for race 1, and average IQ of 115 for race 2, thats generally too close for most of us to recognize, nor would 5IQ points really make a difference in just about anything. With life being a bell curve, the generalizations are somewhat disingenuous because of overall population sizes along with averages.
Here is a book you might be interested in.
"Social Justice Fallacies" by Thomas Sowell
I highly recommend it.
The value of any test is measured by its ability to accomplish its intended purpose. A calculus test is not intended for 5 years olds, so it is expected to be useless. I imagine there are tests to determine if a pre-school child has a learning disability. It would be similarly useless if used to identify high school graduates who would make good managers.IQ tests test your education. And sets the 'standard' based on previous 'tests'. There is NO real test for 'intelligence/brain power'. Closest you can get is 'ability to learn'. Give a 5yr old a calculus test - fail. Test AFTER a calculus lesson and repeat.
Test bias. May be intentional or unintentional. My wife spent a few decades writing certification exams to be administered by Pearson and bias was the bane of her existence. They'd have focus groups after a launch then go rewrite a good chunk of the exams.One last thing about tests: all tests are DESIGNED TO DISCRIMINATE. More specificially, they discriminate between high and low scorers.
Strange claim for things like math and science that are either right or wrong on a test. Maybe I'm a little dumb but I can't imagine trying to create a test to make a certain race look smarter than another, ceterus paribus.One last thing about tests: all tests are DESIGNED TO DISCRIMINATE.
<>Strange claim for things like math and science that are either right or wrong on a test. Maybe I'm a little dumb but I can't imagine trying to create a test to make a certain race look smarter than another, ceterus paribus.