Question about traveling with guns in TX

[txinvestigator]

Are you saying that it would be illegal?

Am I saying what would be illegal? I asked you two questions.

 

[rotor]

Am I saying what would be illegal? I asked you two questions.

Would it be illegal for the manager to allow the Clinique girl to open carry? Can’t you follow your own argument?

 

[Renegade]

Would it be illegal for the manager to allow the Clinique girl to open carry?

How many times does it have to be said, there is no "property owner says it is OK exemption."

 

[Charlie]

BS

 

[Axxe55]

 

[rotor]

How many times does it have to be said, there is no "property owner says it is OK exemption."

What part of "on the person's own premises or premises under the person's control" am I missing. As a property owner I can delegate control to whomever I want. That same person can be authorized to ban a LTC person from entry if I have delegated that power to him/her. Look at 46.02, 2A.
If we believe your interpretation my wife (not actually listed as an owner of our house) could not carry in our house. So, if it doesn't say it is illegal is it legal?

 

[Renegade]

What part of "on the person's own premises or premises under the person's control" am I missing.

The part where the premises are not owned by the Clinique girl, nor are the premises under her control.

 

[rotor]

The part where the premises are not owned by the Clinique girl, nor are the premises under her control.

As the owner can I give the Clinique girl control? As the owner I can give you control.

 

[Renegade]

As the owner can I give the Clinique girl control? As the owner I can give you control.

A property owner can certainly delegate control.

 

[Coop45]

As long as you can legally own and possess a gun, and are a passenger, and the driver/owner of the vehicle you are passenger of, is legal to own or possess a gun knows you have the gun and approves, I see no problems legally.

Disclaimer: But, I'm not a lawyer, and don't play one on TV either.

I told you playing a Rockette wasn't going to get you anywhere.

 

[popper]

Yes, the owner or the person in control (a renter for example). There is no provision for property guests to carry, or for property owners to give guests permission.
IIRC this is changing. Rentor cannot evict for possession?
One problem with auto carry, LTC or not, is what you do after you leave the auto. You either lock it in the auto (bad idea) or take it into a location. You are allowed to do that. Unfortunately, many 'locations' don't allow guns. This is the real problem.

 

[Axxe55]

I told you playing a Rockette wasn't going to get you anywhere.

Only because my legs aren't that good looking!

 

[txinvestigator]

Would it be illegal for the manager to allow the Clinique girl to open carry? Can’t you follow your own argument?

He cannot give the Clinique girl permission to carry. Again, if you will answer the question...do you imagine that the manager would convey control of the store to the Clinique girl, because that is the only way she can carry there minus an LTC?

 

[txinvestigator]

What part of "on the person's own premises or premises under the person's control" am I missing. As a property owner I can delegate control to whomever I want. That same person can be authorized to ban a LTC person from entry if I have delegated that power to him/her. Look at 46.02, 2A.

Now you seem to be getting it. An owner or person in control can convey control, but not simple authorization to carry.

If we believe your interpretation my wife (not actually listed as an owner of our house) could not carry in our house. So, if it doesn't say it is illegal is it legal?

Now you are missing the point again. Regardless of whether your wife is "actually listed as an owner" of your house, it is clearly her premises and she is in control of the premises.

 

[rotor]

He cannot give the Clinique girl permission to carry. Again, if you will answer the question...do you imagine that the manager would convey control of the store to the Clinique girl, because that is the only way she can carry there minus an LTC?

Thank you for finally ending this. The management can give control to anyone that he/she chooses and if it is the "Clinique girl" she can carry minus an LTC (as you noted). Your first sentence seems illogical. In the practical sense is it likely, no. If it is not illegal then I assume it is legal.

 

[innominate]

Yes, the owner or the person in control (a renter for example). There is no provision for property guests to carry, or for property owners to give guests permission.
IIRC this is changing. Rentor cannot evict for possession?
One problem with auto carry, LTC or not, is what you do after you leave the auto. You either lock it in the auto (bad idea) or take it into a location. You are allowed to do that. Unfortunately, many 'locations' don't allow guns. This is the real problem.

That's why there is a list of .06 and .07 establishments.

 

[Renegade]

Your first sentence seems illogical.

You cannot give permission to carry. You can give control of premises. With control of premises, Clinique Girl can decide if she wants to carry, or lock doors and watch tictok videos.

 

[innominate]

Thank you for finally ending this. The management can give control to anyone that he/she chooses and if it is the "Clinique girl" she can carry minus an LTC (as you noted). Your first sentence seems illogical. In the practical sense is it likely, no. If it is not illegal then I assume it is legal.

So do they have a time card of who is in control?

 

[Coop45]

Only because my legs aren't that good looking!

Not shaving them was a set back.

 

[Axxe55]

Not shaving them was a set back.

My razor kept getting dull for some reason!