Power outages

[Vaquero]

I bet the wind energy is suddenly abundant.

 

[smittyb]

I bet the wind energy is suddenly abundant.

Yep

 

[oldag]

Trump told china to take a hike. We cheered.
Like it or not, our manufacturing facilities aren't up to where we need them yet.

Well, we are still importing a LOT from China. Not that it does much good for major equipment items. Chinese quality is crap on its best day. I am watching equipment purchased from them fail at alarming rates, pretty much from the day installed.

 

[toddnjoyce]

Actually, the legislature can do something about it as can the PUC.

Kind of the point. They could have done something to provide PUC with the authority, but they haven’t, That’s why nobody currently has the authority to do something about it.

 

[Darkpriest667]

Well, we are still importing a LOT from China. Not that it does much good for major equipment items. Chinese quality is crap on its best day. I am watching equipment purchased from them fail at alarming rates, pretty much from the day installed.

I am no fan of China, but I think this is anecdotal at best. Since the dawn of manufacturing a 1 to 5 % failure rate has always been considered standard. If any major equipment fails at higher than a 5% failure rate engineers take a look at it. Most of them are Chinese, Taiwanese, or Malaysian. How do I know? I work with them.

 

[avvidclif]

I have been contemplating solar power for a bit. I don't know how it would have worked when the panels are covered in snow(probably not at all). The technology is constantly being improved BUT. Last numbers I saw the breakeven point on a solar install was abt 20 years. And that is about the same point as replacement will be needed. Didn't make sense to me.

 

[oldag]

I am no fan of China, but I think this is anecdotal at best. Since the dawn of manufacturing a 1 to 5 % failure rate has always been considered standard. If any major equipment fails at higher than a 5% failure rate engineers take a look at it. Most of them are Chinese, Taiwanese, or Malaysian. How do I know? I work with them.

We are well past the dawn of manufacturing. I don't know of any American company that considers a 1% failure rate acceptable.

This is a little more than anecdotal. I have seen it across different industries and over more a couple of decades.

Would anyone accept a failure rate of over 50% in gearboxes within the first few years? Don't think so.

Even some as simple as parts for computers. One major manufacturer had a warehouse dedicated to rejects found on the assembly/testing line. Full of Chinese manufactured parts.

Engineers aren't making the procurement decisions and have little to no say in sourcing at most companies. And that is the problem. Accountants are in the C suite. Procurement is evaluated on how much they reduce prices on purchased goods. Who is cheapest? China. So they buy from China and leave the engineers to clean up the mess. GE is spending $100 million at one site alone to replace equipment they bought from China and warrantied to the end user. But they saved $200, 000 buying cheap from China.

Gearboxes, generators, bearings. Every OEM I deal with using these Chinese manufactured parts has extremely high failure rates and are spending a fortune in warranty. Some have been hit so hard, they are sourcing elsewhere now.

 

[oldag]

I have been contemplating solar power for a bit. I don't know how it would have worked when the panels are covered in snow(probably not at all). The technology is constantly being improved BUT. Last numbers I saw the breakeven point on a solar install was abt 20 years. And that is about the same point as replacement will be needed. Didn't make sense to me.

They do not work at all when snow covered, and produce very little output on the kind of cloudy days we had.

You are right, solar panels degrade with time.

 

[Darkpriest667]

We are well past the dawn of manufacturing. I don't know of any American company that considers a 1% failure rate acceptable.

This is a little more than anecdotal. I have seen it across different industries and over more a couple of decades.

Would anyone accept a failure rate of over 50% in gearboxes within the first few years? Don't think so.

Even some as simple as parts for computers. One major manufacturer had a warehouse dedicated to rejects found on the assembly/testing line. Full of Chinese manufactured parts.

Engineers aren't making the procurement decisions and have little to no say in sourcing at most companies. And that is the problem. Accountants are in the C suite. Procurement is evaluated on how much they reduce prices on purchased goods. Who is cheapest? China. So they buy from China and leave the engineers to clean up the mess. GE is spending $100 million at one site alone to replace equipment they bought from China and warrantied to the end user. But they saved $200, 000 buying cheap from China.

Gearboxes, generators, bearings. Every OEM I deal with using these Chinese manufactured parts has extremely high failure rates and are spending a fortune in warranty. Some have been hit so hard, they are sourcing elsewhere now.

Every OEM computer manufacturer considers 5% or less acceptable. I don't know what world you live in but that's the way it is.

GE I don't work for. I only know what I see but we ship 120 million units a year of extremely sensitive equipment. Servers that cost more than your house for just one of them. I'm telling you what I know working directly with engineers. 1 to 5%

 

[oldag]

Every OEM computer manufacturer considers 5% or less acceptable. I don't know what world you live in but that's the way it is.

GE I don't work for. I only know what I see but we ship 120 million units a year of extremely sensitive equipment. Servers that cost more than your house for just one of them. I'm telling you what I know working directly with engineers. 1 to 5%

No company I ever worked for considered a 1% reject rate acceptable, much less 5%.

 

[cycleguy2300]

I am no fan of China, but I think this is anecdotal at best. Since the dawn of manufacturing a 1 to 5 % failure rate has always been considered standard. If any major equipment fails at higher than a 5% failure rate engineers take a look at it. Most of them are Chinese, Taiwanese, or Malaysian. How do I know? I work with them.

5% seems insanely high. Is there a decimal missing maybe and you mean 0.5% ?

I know each industry it will vary, but even 1% seems like an enormous number and attackable to reduce and increase products and reputation.

Ammo may be on the extreme end, but when was the last time you had a dud round? 5% of your shots? Even if 1% of your rounds don't fire folks would be livid.

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[cycleguy2300]

I have been contemplating solar power for a bit. I don't know how it would have worked when the panels are covered in snow(probably not at all). The technology is constantly being improved BUT. Last numbers I saw the breakeven point on a solar install was abt 20 years. And that is about the same point as replacement will be needed. Didn't make sense to me.

Breakeven as in your'e net-zero with where you would have been with doing nothing or breakeven where you've saved enough to pay for the solar with savings on your bill?

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[BBL]

Back on topic. I came across this page. Some information goes pretty much against the idea of our independent electric grid that is not subject to federal regulation.

Outstanding thread on the REAL situation and PROBLEM in Texas. Hint: It AIN’T Ted Cruz.

We have a real problem in the Lone Star state. But it ain’t Ted Cruz or Greg Abbott or “climate denial” or even a lack of AOC hanging around. One of the most important sentences i…

therightscoop.com

How true is the information? While it would not surprise me if that was real, my skeptical inner self would like some kind of confirmation.

 

[smittyb]

Back on topic. I came across this page. Some information goes pretty much against the idea of our independent electric grid that is not subject to federal regulation.

How true is the information? While it would not surprise me if that was real, my skeptical inner self would like some kind of confirmation.

For the 15,000th time, WE ARE NOT IMMUNE FROM FEDERAL REGULATION!!!
Most of my job is complying with NERC regulations. Look up NERC 693. Better yet here

https://www.nerc.com/files/order_693.pdf

Click on that.
EVERY electric utility in Texas must comply with the sections that pertain to them in that document.
The fine for not complying is up to ONE MILLION DOLLARS A DAY.
There is a entity, TexasRE, whose sole purpose is to do audits to ensure compliance.
I’m getting real tired of clueless people perpetuating this myth.

 

[oldag]

For the 15,000th time, WE ARE NOT IMMUNE FROM FEDERAL REGULATION!!!
Most of my job is complying with NERC regulations. Look up NERC 693. Better yet here

https://www.nerc.com/files/order_693.pdf

Click on that.
EVERY electric utility in Texas must comply with the sections that pertain to them in that document.
The fine for not complying is up to ONE MILLION DOLLARS A DAY.
There is a entity, TexasRE, whose sole purpose is to do audits to ensure compliance.
I’m getting real tired of clueless people perpetuating this myth.

Yep. Smitty is correct.

ERCOT is deemed "independent" because we do not have the inter-ISO connections that other areas have. We do have some ties which can import/export electricity. But we are not interconnected as much as some other areas. This keeps some other part of the country from taking Texas grid down if they have an issue. Some years back, a minor issue in the north took out a huge swath of their grid across multiple states and ISO's.

 

[FireInTheWire]

 

[ZX9RCAM]

Damn, he actually caught it...

 

[Jack Ryan]

The left is preparing for war with Merrick Garland and enough troops in DC to take over Iraq. These power outages are just going to get worse before any of them get better AND spread more and more to GOP Trump supporting states. They are just softening up enemies held positions and implanting sympthetic personel with spreading the socialist criminal invaders deep in to right wing territory.

 

[Younggun]

Lmao


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[no2gates]

I bet the wind energy is suddenly abundant.

Only when Uncle Joe and ",la" talk.