Outrageous news

[toddnjoyce]

So that's why the paper goods aisle of HEB was looking destroyed when I was there yesterday.

Sadly, 90% of toilet paper is American made.

 

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Sadly, 90% of toilet paper is American made.

I'd read somewhere that other 10% comes from Mexico or Canada...via truck.

 

[leVieux]

How long will water in plastic bottles be potable when stored in a garage, exposed to heat?

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So far we haven’t encountered a problem with drinking WATER.

Canned & bottled “cold drinks”, “soda pop”, go bad rapidly.

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[leVieux]

Sadly, 90% of toilet paper is American made.

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T.P. is made from softwood pulp; mainly from the great Canadian conifer forests.

I think ?

It should travel by train or truck to Texas.

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T.P. is made from softwood pulp; mainly from the great Canadian conifer forests.

I think ?

It should travel by train or truck to Texas.

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US makes TP too. International Paper and two other companies reside in southeastern Oklahoma. I know International makes TP.

 

[General Zod]

How long will water in plastic bottles be potable when stored in a garage, exposed to heat?

Takes one summer for the mold seam on those cheap plastic bottles to fail in the heat. So it doesn't really matter how long the water will keep because it's gonna become feral water and escape before you know it.

 

[MountainGirl]

Takes one summer for the mold seam on those cheap plastic bottles to fail in the heat. So it doesn't really matter how long the water will keep because it's gonna become feral water and escape before you know it.

Didn't know that. Is that on all the brands or just the really cheap thin bottles that fold up in your hand while you try to twist the cap off?

 

[General Zod]

Didn't know that. Is that on all the brands or just the really cheap thin bottles that fold up in your hand while you try to twist the cap off?

The one gallon milk jug type are prone to it. I had some gently used distilled water jugs I had refilled with tapwater out in the forge, because hauling water for the quench tank is a hassle so I figured I'd stockpile it over the summer and replenish what evaporated. Found all the bottles at least mostly empty when the time came to add water to the tank, and they damn near ruined the shelf they were sitting on.

 

[MountainGirl]

The one gallon milk jug type are prone to it. I had some gently used distilled water jugs I had refilled with tapwater out in the forge, because hauling water for the quench tank is a hassle so I figured I'd stockpile it over the summer and replenish what evaporated. Found all the bottles at least mostly empty when the time came to add water to the tank, and they damn near ruined the shelf they were sitting on.

Ah, okay. I thought you were talking about bottled water, Dasani, Aquafina, etc. Thanks.

 

[Army 1911]

Takes one summer for the mold seam on those cheap plastic bottles to fail in the heat. So it doesn't really matter how long the water will keep because it's gonna become feral water and escape before you know it.

Free range water!

 

[General Zod]

Ah, okay. I thought you were talking about bottled water, Dasani, Aquafina, etc. Thanks.

Nope, not the individual serving bottles. Though I don't trust those super-thin bottles they're foisting on us lately.

 

[benenglish]

... the really cheap thin bottles that fold up in your hand while you try to twist the cap off?

I hate that. I still buy Hill Country at HEB but when they switched over to the thin bottles, I was mightily irritated.

I don't know why I was surprised, though. It was just a few years earlier that HEB switched to the ultra-thin plastic bags at checkout. Previously, I almost never needed household plastic trash bags. I just recycled the grocery bags from HEB. I even installed an inside-the-cabinet-door frame designed to hold those plastic bags open for that use.

Not any more. When the grocery bags got too thin to repurpose as garbage bags I had to start buying a lot more plastic garbage bags.

By making the bags thinner so they used less plastic, I was forced to use a lot more plastic.

Those unintended consequences will smack you in the head every time.

 

[Tnhawk]

No hope for humanity. Hoarding water and toilet paper again due to the port strike even though it's all produced within the US.
Costco run on water and toilet paper

Reporting by CNN and USAToday seems to be responsible for creating panic buying of toilet paper and water. Both are domestic products, as is Shiner.

 

[cycleguy2300]

Takes one summer for the mold seam on those cheap plastic bottles to fail in the heat. So it doesn't really matter how long the water will keep because it's gonna become feral water and escape before you know it.

Depends on the bottle... had some el cheapo 500ml water bottles rolling around in the back of a cargo Sprinter I used to haul dirt bikes around. They had been in there probably close to two years in the heat and while they had a slightly gasoline flavor I lived.

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[cycleguy2300]

The one gallon milk jug type are prone to it. I had some gently used distilled water jugs I had refilled with tapwater out in the forge, because hauling water for the quench tank is a hassle so I figured I'd stockpile it over the summer and replenish what evaporated. Found all the bottles at least mostly empty when the time came to add water to the tank, and they damn near ruined the shelf they were sitting on.

Milk jugs are PE (HDPE, iirc) soda and most water bottles are PET.

PET is an AWESOME plastic and is also fuel proof. A 2l soda bottle and an unlined lid (like Smart water uses) will store gas and be nearly indestructible (i.e. With out worry, I will dirt bike with one or two in my pack if I'm in BFE).

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