Ok Austin, can we get some good gun laws now?
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The election moved us in the right direction, but we still have a few polecats in the hen house...their bottom of the barrel support has kept them in office for a long time but they lack much power today. So lets get on with some AZ gun laws, or even better. The zombies are breeding and hatching like flies so the need
for citizen's firearms and firearm rights upgrading is needed NOW ! Hello, Texas Legislature, can you hear us ?
for citizen's firearms and firearm rights upgrading is needed NOW ! Hello, Texas Legislature, can you hear us ?
txinvestigator
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You will see movement on the employer parking lot and campus carry issues, but not open carry or a repeal of 46.02.
Why is that?
A republican majority is definitely better than a dem majority, but I fear not much is going to change. We can't rest easy just because we "won". Constitutional carry is going to be a long hard battle.
Of course not. There will be work involved for sure. I have to disagree though. I think we can do it. Maybe not tomorrow but I have seen miracles happen.
Honestly, lack of a cohesive, well-funded, and motivated group that is of substantial influence.
txinvestigator
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The legislature has no interest. And quite frankly, these things need to be taken slowly and methodically. Get the other things passed......
I hope you don't mind very much if we try. If we give it our best shot? Are you opposed to the idea? Common! Be a sport!
Hmmm... There's an idea!
You guys are years away from being that organization. No offense.
txinvestigator
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I mean this will all sincerity; you guys don't care what I think. You have an agenda for whatever reason and you will push it. God Bless America.
It's reality in the American political system. If we cannot pass a small bill, then we have no hopes of a large one.
I'm going to say this as gently/politely as I possibly can. When you're pushing a new idea/legislation, it may make you feel good to be all "in their face" and strident about it....but you're going to turn away more folks than you attract. I should know - I spent years learning that the hard way. Reasoned debate, a well-thought out set of talking points and proper grammar/spelling/sentence structure has be be present in ALL communications - written and oral. Your "public face" needs to be photogenic, polite and well-versed in not only 2nd Amendment, but the Constitution and laws in general. Your appearance should be professional at ALL times, and if you've got someone that identifies themself as a supporter, you've got to keep close tabs on 'em at major public events. ONE jackass can destroy everything you've worked for.
I agree. As a gun rights supporter the most important thing to do iscome across as responsible stewards for the 2nd amendment, and actively avoid painting a negative light on ourselves.
For the people that think the LSCDL is years away from being large enough to get stuff done. From what I understand LSCDL is an activist organization vs a passive watchdog of a group such as TSRA. Activist groups effectively push for things, the more passive groups just get mad when something doesn't go their way. The previous lack of an activist group is probably the main reason we have not seen any innovative pro-2a laws out of texas for a long time.
Nothing is going to change drastically until we start electing politicians (they'd most likely be independent or at least not one of the big 2) who don't care at all about re-election and are not afraid to stand up for what is morally and ethically right. There are a few out there, but the vast majority are too busy playing politics to actually do their jobs, and at most we usually end up with superficial improvements from them because most don't have the balls to actually stand up and get some serious legislation passed.
Then how do you explain CHL in the mid-90s, MPA in 2007, etc.
The gun community and the fiscal right need to take a lesson from the leftists and learn to work cohesively as a motivated group. Too many of us cannot simply agree on simple gains, and instead want the home run approach because damnit that's just how it's going to be!
As Redneck said, that doesn't work in the real life. You need to get in there, grease palms, make buddies, and motivate the people that actually have the power to enact change. The mindless millions that surround us won't allow you, or us, to push in independents. Many people vote straight ticket, or just vote because there's an R next to the name. Working your butt off to convince 10,000 people in 200 districts that they need to vote in independent conservatives is not going to yield anything. Convincing those 10,000 people to work cohesively as a PAC for gun rights, is EXACTLY what needs to be done.
