New executive order signed by obama

[texas1willy2]

First let me ask that if your idea of posting consist of attaching tin foil to yourself to high-jack the thread please go somewhere else.
Here's the article, I'll be honest I don't know what to make of all this". It's from the Texans for immigration reform site.

One must read this one closely but when it dawns on you that the 10 Governors to be appointed by the President will perhaps soon correspond to the 10 FEMA REGIONS and effectively will be under the Secretary of Defense and hence the President in a system of Regional Military Governors over all States, not just the States they might be from, you might just experience a chill up your spine. Note that then all States in essence have been taken over at least on paper by the President and will be administered Militarily. Read carefully Section -2 Functions, of this Executive Order and you will clearly see how inclusive these functions can be... especially Item "e" which has language sufficiently broad and loose that a Tank Battalion could be driven through it.

Americans had better understand that this Executive Order along with all of those previously signed, and with Presidential Decision Directive 51 and others will be used to destroy the Constitution and Bill of Rights and to render each American effectively into nothing more than a member of a work gang subject to control of the Regional Military Governor who is under the SecDef who is under the President. Posse Comitatus then is dead, Habeas Corpus is dead, Bill of Rights is dead, and only the whims and subjective decisions of the Regional Military Governor, as directed by the President via the Secretary of Defense and executed by Northcom troopers who now include U.S., Canadian, Mexican, and other Foreign troops as well as Mercenaries and the States' National Guards, Militias, and Police agencies will be the Iron Fist Rule of the Land.

Is this what the Founding Fathers would be proud of or would they say we have come full circle and that now We the People should invoke the Declaration of Independence once again and be ready on Lexington Green and prepositioned at Concord Bridge? I think I know what Thomas Jefferson, Patrick Henry, Sam Adams, and old "Swamp Fox" would sa

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http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/2010executive_order.pdf
The Left - Watch What They Do, Not What They Say !: Breaking News - Obama Signs Martial Law Executive Order

 

[codygjohnson]

It's a meeting of 10 governors with the president. It doesn't grant any power to anyone. It just says, If you're appointed, you'd better show up, and we're going to talk about things that are going on with the country right now. I'm not worried yet, but we'll see what happens.

 

[texas1willy2]

I've been reading for awhile now that there are plans to take all power away from individual states during a "emergency" and turn them over to the federal government. This certainly looks like it will do that. One of the biggest problems I see with what I had read before was that the term "emergency" was so broad it could include anything.

 

[texas1willy2]

Here's the older article I was talking about, notice the last line said that the legislation didn't have a sponsor in the House our the Senate. So just like I've been warning he goes the way of executive order to get what they want and it looks like they soften up the appearance some by saying that a panel will help with decisions.

The Pentagon has approached Congress to grant the Secretary of Defense the authority to post almost 400,000 military personnel throughout the United States in times of emergency or a major disaster.

This request has already occasioned a dispute with the nation’s governors. And it raises the prospect of U.S. military personnel patrolling the streets of the United States, in conflict with the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878.

In June, the U.S. Northern Command distributed a “Congressional Fact Sheet” entitled “Legislative Proposal for Activation of Federal Reserve Forces for Disasters.” That proposal would amend current law, thereby “authorizing the Secretary of Defense to order any unit or member of the Army Reserve, Air Force Reserve, Navy Reserve, and the Marine Corps Reserve, to active duty for a major disaster or emergency.”

Taken together, these reserve units would amount to “more than 379,000 military personnel in thousands of communities across the United States,” explained

Paul Stockton, Assistant Secretary of Defense for Homeland Defense and America’s Security Affairs, in a letter to the National Governors Association, dated July 20.

The governors were not happy about this proposal, since they want to maintain control of their own National Guard forces, as well as military personnel acting in a domestic capacity in their states.

“We are concerned that the legislative proposal you discuss in your letter would invite confusion on critical command and control issues,” Governor James H. Douglas of Vermont and Governor Joe Manchin III of West Virginia, the president and vice president of the governors’ association, wrote in a letter back to Stockton on August 7. The governors asserted that they “must have tactical control over all . . . active duty and reserve military forces engaged in domestic operations within the governor’s state or territory.”

According to Pentagon public affairs officer Lt. Col. Almarah K. Belk, Stockton has not responded formally to the governors but understands their concerns.

“There is a rub there,” she said. “If the Secretary calls up the reserve personnel to provide support in a state and retains command and control of those forces, the governors are concerned about if I have command and control of the Guard, how do we ensure unity of effort and everyone is communicating and not running over each other.”

Belk said Stockton is addressing this problem. “That is exactly what Dr. Stockton is working out right now with the governors and DHS and the National Guard,” she said. “He’s bringing all the stakeholders together.”

Belk said the legislative change is necessary in the aftermath of a “catastrophic natural disaster, not beyond that,” and she referred to Katrina, among other events.

But NorthCom’s Congressional fact sheet refers not just to a “major disaster” but also to “emergencies.” And it says, “Those terms are defined in section 5122 of title 42, U.S. Code.”

That section gives the President the sole discretion to designate an event as an “emergency” or a “major disaster.” Both are “in the determination of the President” alone.

That section also defines “major disaster” by citing plenty of specifics: “hurricane, tornado, storm, high water, wind-driven water, tidal wave, tsunami, earthquake, volcanic eruption, landslide, mudslide, snowstorm, or drought,” as well as “fire, flood, or explosion.”

But the definition of “emergency” is vague: “Emergency means any occasion or instance for which, in the determination of the President, Federal assistance is needed to supplement State and local efforts and capabilities to save lives and to protect property and public health and safety, or to lessen or avert the threat of a catastrophe in any part of the United States.”

Currently, the President can call up the Reserves only in an emergency involving “a use or threatened use of a weapon of mass destruction” or “a terrorist attack or threatened terrorist attack in the United States that results, or could result, in significant loss of life or property,” according to Title 10, Chapter 1209, Section 12304, of the U.S. Code. In fact, Section 12304 explicitly prohibits the President from calling up the Reserves for any other “natural or manmade disaster, accident, or catastrophe.”

So the new proposed legislation would greatly expand the President’s power to call up the Reserves in a disaster or an emergency and would extend that power to the Secretary of Defense. (There are other circumstances, such as repelling invasions or rebellions or enforcing federal authority, where the President already has the authority to call up the Reserves.)

The ACLU is alarmed by the proposed legislation. Mike German, the ACLU’s national security policy counsel, expressed amazement “that the military would propose such a broad set of authorities and potentially undermine a 100-year-old prohibition against the military in domestic law enforcement with no public debate and seemingly little understanding of the threat to democracy.”

At the moment, says Pentagon spokesperson Belk, the legislation does not have a sponsor in the House or the Senate.

 

[mrseatle]

I'm sure a lot of folks here wouldn't even mind as long as they get their special goverment issued concealed carry permits in the new order. You gotta be able to defend yourself and your family in an emergency they say.

 

[TexasRedneck]

I'm sure a lot of folks here wouldn't even mind as long as they get their special goverment issued concealed carry permits in the new order. You gotta be able to defend yourself and your family in an emergency they say.

Dude....it's gettin' old, y'know?

 

[texas1willy2]

This is what our neighbors have to say about it:

American Republic replaced by “Council of Governors”?

By Judi McLeod Tuesday, January 12, 2010
Quietly—even stealthily—in the opening days of the New Year, President Barack Obama has set up a “Council of Governors”.

Like the 30-plus czars running America with neither the people’s nor the congress’s blessings, the Council of Governors is already a done deal.

“Is this a first step towards Martial Law, or a tie to the InterPol, RAND National Police Force stuff we’ve been hearing about,” asked a Texas patriot who tipped off Canada Free Press (CFP) after finding news of the new Council of Governors on Twitter. “Is this a sort of Homeland Security Politburo?

“I do know it’s another sleuth order executed without any announcement, OR EXPLANATION to the People.”

Patriots know by now that the promised Obama “transparency” is a fog.

Checking the Net on the Council of Governors, CFP found other than a few blogs only UPI.com had the story as of this morning:

“President Barack Obama Monday established a panel of state governors to collaborate with Washington on a variety of potential emergencies, the White House said.” (UPI.com, Jan. 11, 2010 at 11:54 p.m.). “Obama signed an executive order establishing a panel to be known as the Council of Governors, which will be made up of 10 state governors, to be selected by the president to serve two-year terms. Members will review matters involving the National Guard; homeland defense; civil support; and synchronization and integration of state and federal military activities in the United States, the White House said in a statement.

“The statement said the White House would seek input from governors and governors’ association (sic) in deciding which governors to appoint to the council, which will have no more than five governors from the same party.

“The secretaries of defense and homeland security will also sit on the council, as will presidential assistants for homeland security and counter-terrorism, intergovernmental affairs, the U.S. Northern Command commander, the commander of the East Coast Guard, and the chief of the National Guard Bureau.

“The panel was set up under a provision of the Fiscal Year 2008 National Defense Authorization Act, the White House said.”

There was no timestamp on the latest Emergency Order from Whitehouse.gov, which readers can see below.

The Obama administration seems to be conducting the business of America under cover of the dark.

American Republic replaced by “Council of Governors”?

 

[RetArmySgt]

We have nothing to worry about if the troops are Oath Keepers and not just Oath Takers. But i still say its time to take a stand against this dumbass in office and send him back to Kenya.

 

[seena]

One must read this one closely but when it dawns on you that the 10 Governors to be appointed by the President will perhaps soon correspond to the 10 FEMA REGIONS and effectively will be under the Secretary of Defense and hence the President in a system of Regional Military Governors over all States, not just the States they might be from, you might just experience a chill up your spine. Note that then all States in essence have been taken over at least on paper by the President and will be administered Militarily. Read carefully Section -2 Functions, of this Executive Order and you will clearly see how inclusive these functions can be....... especially Item e which has language sufficiently broad and loose that a Tank Battalion could be driven through it.
Americans had better understand that this Executive Order along with all of those previously signed ,and with Presidential Decision Directive 51 and others will be used to destroy the Constitution and Bill of Rights and to render each American effectively into nothing more than a member of a work gang subject to control of the Regional Military Governor who is under the Secdef who is under the President. Posse Comitatus then is dead, Habeas Corpus is dead, Bill of Rights is dead, and only the whims and subjective decisions of the Regional Military Governor, as directed by the President via the Secretary of Defense and executed by Northcom troopers who now include U.S. , Canadian, Mexican, and other Foreign troops as well as Mercenaries and the States' National Guards, Militias, and Police agencies will be the Iron Fist Rule of the Land.





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[TexasRedneck]

<yawn>

 

[SiscoKid]

I thought it was said when Obammy signed the EO to get Stupidpak's health care vote, that an EO cannot trump the Constitution or Law? IE: he was pulling the wool over Stupak's eyes.

If so, then this is such a situation. It's meaningless.

 

[deputy]

actually, this executive order was more or less started by Bush (in foundation)..........and finished/issued by obama

under Bush, it was passed as public law 110-181 in jan/2008......and section 1822 of that law calls for the creation of the council

SEC. 1822. COUNCIL OF GOVERNORS.
The President shall establish a bipartisan Council of Governors to advise the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of Homeland Security, and the White House Homeland Security Council on matters related to the National Guard and civil support missions.

Bush never got around to creating the council as required by "law". obama did.
I view it as nothing short of a power grab by the executive branch of the federal govt. The President's Office under any political party has become extremely powerful especially since Congress has been delegating more power/authority to the executive branch ever since FDR. This section was left purty vague/broad by Congress and therefore left the specifics up to the executive branch....as in their interpretation of "matters" and "civil support missions".

If Congress would properly do their job and spell a few things out and define specifics, then the President could at least be reigned in a bit and stop some of the possible over-reaching.

 

[M. Sage]

Dude....it's gettin' old, y'know?

Indeed.

 

[Major Woody]

Yeah, but a 120 million gun owners ain't planning on dieing yet. There are a lot of foreign troops at our military bases training for house to house.

 

[Wolfwood]

Yeah, but a 120 million gun owners ain't planning on dieing yet. There are a lot of foreign troops at our military bases training for house to house.

true.

 

[cuate]

Well, "he" , hopefully is going to have the support of his toadies in the House & Senate voted out of office come November. Many thought that the peanut farmer and Klinton were the worst in US history but according to most polls those two are way back in second and third place.