New bill: "... recognition of a nonresident license to carry a concealed handgun"

[Bithabus]

Filed today by Rep. Lon Burnam of District 90 (Ft Worth). He appears to be a Liberal, from the bills he authored last session.


HB 356 Author: Burnam
Last Action: 11/29/2010 H Filed
Caption: Relating to the recognition of a nonresident license to carry a concealed handgun.


Texascop called this one. I'll post the text tomorrow when it becomes available.

I predict this fails in House committee.

 

[KAK]

What a beat off. I bet it fails too but this makes me rethink wasting my time on the Utah class.

 

[Bithabus]

82R1338 JSC-D By: Burnam H.B. No. 356 A BILL TO BE ENTITLED AN ACT relating to the recognition of a nonresident license to carry a concealed handgun. BE IT ENACTED BY THE LEGISLATURE OF THE STATE OF TEXAS: SECTION 1. Section 411.173, Government Code, is amended by adding Subsection (b-1) to read as follows: (b-1) Notwithstanding Subsection (b), a person's license issued by another state may not be recognized in this state if the person has established a domicile in this state. For purposes of this subsection, "domicile" has the meaning assigned by Section 522.003, Transportation Code. SECTION 2. This Act takes effect September 1, 2011.

 

[KAK]

82R1338 JSC-D By: Burnam H.B. No. 356 A BILL TO BE ENTITLED AN ACT relating to the recognition of a nonresident license to carry a concealed handgun. BE IT ENACTED BY THE LEGISLATURE OF THE STATE OF TEXAS: SECTION 1. Section 411.173, Government Code, is amended by adding Subsection (b-1) to read as follows: (b-1) Notwithstanding Subsection (b), a person's license issued by another state may not be recognized in this state if the person has established a domicile in this state. For purposes of this subsection, "domicile" has the meaning assigned by Section 522.003, Transportation Code. SECTION 2. This Act takes effect September 1, 2011.

What does that mean to the potential Utah CHL holder? It wont work right?

 

[Bithabus]

What does that mean to the potential Utah CHL holder? It wont work right?

Right. I wouldn't worry about this becoming law but it is interesting that it was filed a day or so after the one in PA.

 

[KAK]

how soon will I know?

 

[Bithabus]

how soon will I know?

Few months. You could just get a Texas CHL.

 

[London]

Great. I just sent my app to AZ. Figures.

 

[Texan2]

Texascop called this one. I'll post the text tomorrow when it becomes available.

I predict this fails in House committee.

It will be interesting to see. Many bills dont go far the first time around.

 

[San Antone RR]

I am guessing that if it does pass, there will be a Grandfather Clause that will allow you to continue to carry with your out of state license, but won't recognize it after expiration/renewal and will require you to get a TX CHL.

 

[Texan2]

I am guessing that if it does pass, there will be a Grandfather Clause that will allow you to continue to carry with your out of state license, but won't recognize it after expiration/renewal and will require you to get a TX CHL.

I would agree

 

[London]

I was thinking about that, too. By the time it expires I should be GTG for a TX, but may keep the AZ if it's easier. The grandfather thing seems murky to me for renewal an existing license, but I'm no lawyer.

 

[Texan2]

Who knows how it would be implemented, but I doubt anyone would be instantly cut off.

 

[txinvestigator]

I don't see any "grandfather" clause in the bill.

 

[Texan2]

That bill sure is short and sweet.

Many laws that are passed dont take effect until Jan. 1 of the following year....if that happened here, they would have a window to get their TXCHL.

 

[MR Redneck]

Lon Burnam

Capitol Address:

Room CAP GW.8, Capitol
P.O. Box 2910
Austin, TX 78768
(512) 463-0740
(512) 463-1075 Fax
District Address:

1067 W. Magnolia
Fort Worth, TX 76104
(817) 924-1997
(817) 924-6788 Fax



His bill history!


HB 354 State income TAX!
HB 355 Tax some coal why dont ya!
HB 356 Lets put more restrictions on Texas gun-right's!

 

[APatriot]

I predict this bill will fail. State reciprocity is "too" strong of an alliance in my opinion.

 

[Texan2]

I predict this bill will fail. State reciprocity is "too" strong of an alliance in my opinion.

This bill would not effect reciprocity for those traveling in Texas, visiting Texas, or those in the process of establishing a residence in Texas.

 

[APatriot]

This bill would not effect reciprocity for those traveling in Texas, visiting Texas, or those in the process of establishing a residence in Texas.

How do you know that? Where in the bill does it offer that stipulation? Is what I read here in regard to the bill complete?

So I establish residence here in Texas, and let's say I simply wish to keep my Utah license. Why shouldn't I be allowed to do that based on reciprocity? Of course, you could say that reciprocity was only intended for visitation and "traveling through", which of course is a reasonable argument. Maybe this bill is to get more "fees" from Texas residents who wish to CC; therefore, saying - "if you wish to live in Texas, you must have a Texas CHL".

BTW, I am a Texan. The above was mentioned only to cite an example.

I don't know, and really, this is a "gravity" issue for me. I could really care less since I am Texan born and bred.

 

[Texan2]

How do you know that? Where in the bill does it offer that stipulation?

well, I read the bill.
did you read it?
it is only one page, and it is very specific in regard to who it is directed at. Furthermore it doesn't repeal any stipulations about reciprocity, merely expounds on who reciprocity would not apply to....those who have established residency here in this state.